Demon Souls is more like a WRPG then a JRPG imo

lol wonder why they are still considered in metacritic... bad journalism is bad

Edge give games scores based on the game play and fun factor that they experience. I guess they care very little for games with excellent graphics which covers up for mediocre game play. FFXIII is a prime example of that it has great graphics on the exterior but the interior its gameplay is very mediocre. The game has been made easier to attract more people to play it. You have the option to auto battle in this game, let the game play itself. What is the point of that?

FFXIII is more or less a sequel to FFXII. FF games have been rehashed and SE made this game worse than previous FF games. The XBox 360 version of FFXIII was completed within 12 months.

FFXIII (PS3) 81 on metacritic based on 18 reviews. FFXIII (360) 87 on metacritic based on 6 reviews. FFXIII for either PS3 or 360 will be lucky to stay above 80 on metacritic. Lowest rated main series FF game of all time!!!

You haven't even played the game...so how could you know anything about its gameplay?

It's funny you mention that because I agree with her, those commericials are AWFUL. ME2 is one of my favorite games for strengths that no Final Fantasy has come close to having, namely an excellent sense of pace, and a deep, "realistic", political universe. By realistic, I mean there are plenty of small things, like the codex information stuff, that really adds to the depth of the game. In FF games (or really just JRPGs), it's not unheard of to just walk into someone's house, take their money, and walk out without them even batting an eye. Some people are like "well it's your reward for exploring" but I say "why would the people in a game care if you explore?". In those JRPGs, I feel you are more of a bystander, in games that aren't like that, you can actually feel like you participate in shaping the story (even if it's linear and you have very little actual effect other than just going through the game). I have yet to play a FF game that can even nearly reach that level of immersion.

But that's also okay, I'm not saying thats a bad thing, but it's just something that FF games haven't been able to do yet.

I do not think it's a case of "make JRPGs more like WRPGs" as it is a case of "we've seen this before, about 20 times, do something more". You can talk as much as you want about gameplay differences from each FF game to the next, but when it boils down, there's always this feeling that "this is a Final Fantasy game". Which is good, and bad. It's kind of like (if you're a Foo Fighters fan) you hear a Foo Fighters song, and even if you don't know the song, you KNOW it's Foo Fighters, they have their own sound that's very easy to recognize. Plenty of great bands are like this, and some of them fall into a trap of being able to use that as a platform to propel their music as opposed to a crutch to hinder themselves. Maybe reviewers, namely western reviewers, are starting to feel that the "this is a FF game" feeling is starting to hold the series back, and would like to see the series transform. That's at least how I've felt.

Yes, there's a new combat system, a new levelling system, new story/characters. But there's something else, a sort of abstract thing, that needs to be re-worked. Maybe this is how some reviewers see it too.

Not to mention, if it's boring, it's boring, no matter how you spin it.

He's canceled over 100 FF13 pre-orders! Damn he must be rollin on dough!

sorry, but that is unfair, honestly edge scores are to low, this game really deserves something better

Their consistency across genres is a bit wobbly.  An average FPS seems to be 7 for them and a decent FPS 8 and anything they think is very good (whether original or not) gets a 9 - for the most part, there are exceptions.  I've noticed with RPGs they seem to be harsher for some reason (or at least based on the RGP reviews I've used them for.  DA got a 5 which seemed low - I didn't think it was amazing but it seemed a solid 7 minimum - and now FFXIII gets a 5.

It's just another view, of course, but assuming their is some form of consistency of standards reviews (professional ones at any rate) shouldn't vary that much.  I mean you'll always get some outliers, but to take film as an analogy look at most professional reviews of The Hurt Locker and they're very consistent, because the criteria of what makes a 'great' film is fairly consistent.

The reason I posted, given I normally bypass these kinds of topics, is that I'm increasingly of the view that the videogame industry, from a professional reviewing point of view, is possible leaning towards being a bit rubbish.  Of course there will always be some films, books, games, etc that divide critics, but increasingly and specifically for videogames review consistency seems to be out the window.  There are reviews that seem little more than adverts pushing the hype and passing out 10s like candy, reviews that can't seem to agree on whether a basic gameplay mechanic is good or bad and reviews which are just plain uninformed.

Now it may be I'm out of sync with changing demands, and people want reviews as buying guides or based purely on an individual opinion of fun, but without some consistency I don't see how you can judge (and I suspect it's this very lack of consistency plus a desire to have a buying guide that's lead to the rise of sites like Metacritic) between one review and another.  Are the EDGE 5 and another site's 9 simply two different opinions, not professional ones based on a common sense of criteria, but more like 2 guys in a pub giving you there view, or is one closer to the mark than the other?

Anyway.  I just thought it was an interesting score that seemed (even allowing for other scores in the 6/7/8 range) right on the edge (pardon the pun) of the spectrum of scores for the game.

lol. It's funny, cause I have played the game. And if anyone else in the thread had played the game they would know that the auto battle will get you killed in five seconds.

This review doesn't bother me since they gave FFX a 6

this FF13 score was coming from a mile away, I warned Fab_GS bout this ages ago!

the IGN UK one on the other hand.......