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letsdance on 04 March 2010
HKN said:
Hyruken said:
letsdance said:

Anyway... since you love using Amazon so much...

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=MAG

Guess your favorite website just showed how big of a hypocrite you are... how does that make you feel?

BTW just for good measure.

http://www.gamestop.com/browse/search.aspx?N=0&Ntk=TitleKeyword&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntt=MAG

http://www.target.com/gp/search/178-0655465-7709436?field-keywords=MAG&url=index%3Dtarget%26search-alias%3Dtgt-index&ref=sr_bx_1_1

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;jsessionid=4CC80614DA6900B9258925F9A73B6FF1.bbolsp-app04-41?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&_dynSessConf=-4479881763372108799&id=pcat17071&type=page&st=MAG&sc=Global&cp=1&nrp=15&sp=&qp=&list=n&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960

Oh... and lets not forget

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=MAG

To cancel out your UK arguement.

I'm surprised you didn't try using Amazon to begin with... oh wait... it doesn't support your agenda... on to the next site that might.

 

You spout the same anti sony rhetoric post after post. Its hilarious. "Ps3 exclusive massively hyped" "Ps3 exclusive massively advertised" "Ps3 exclusive sucks" "Ps3 exclusive massively under performs"

Your post have always and will always remain garbage.


wow nerd rage!

Firstly where have i mentioned Amazon?! I said "Game", that is not amazon is it? To mention things i have not even said is pretty lame dude, just like before if your going to bash someone then please for the love of god at least stick to the truth rather then making something up like you have.

Secondly we were talking about UK not US, i don't think you even have that shop in the states....To then go off on one about shops in states is pretty irelivent seeing as again we are not talking about states....

But if you want to talk about that then fine. You just linked games at $59, all in stock. Here in the UK like i mentioned in my post that for some reason you decided to ignore i said "full price is £39.99" You will not find it at full price currently".

Here are a list of non amazon uk websites where it is not at full price (£39.99)

http://www.shopto.net/PS3/VIDEO%20GAMES/PS3MA07-MAG%20Massive%20Action%20Game.html

http://www.thehut.com/games/platforms/ps3/mag-massive-action-game/10062551.html?utm_source=googleprod&utm_medium=gp&utm_campaign=gp_games

http://www.gamestation.co.uk/search.aspx?s=MAG+(Massive+Action+Game

http://shop.gameplay.co.uk/webstore/productpage.asp?productcode=PX0531

http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/4-/6072223/MAG/Product.html?&_$ja=tsid:11518%7Ccc:%7Cprd:6072223%7Ccat:Action

etc etc, i can write another 20 if you like? All MAG all not at full price, like i said and not one of them amazon, a site im supposedly obsessed with.....

Which is actually quite funny because you linked amazon and it showed you it was nearly £6 (15%) off the standard price. Guess you missed that bit when getting so worked up right?

So a lot of personal attacks in there, i appreciate those. But this is the best bit. You say i say the anti sony stuff implying i am a anti ps3 person. If you look at my signature you will see my gamer cards for both 360 and ps3. If you actually bothered to look at those you would see i have not bought any new 360 games for a loooongtime. Where as if you looked at my PS3 profile you would see some interesting stuff, like for example all the games i have played on it with one of the most recent being a title you may have heard of called "MAG". And today i have a new game for it called "Bad Company 2", which is on the PS3. If i was such an anti sony guy why would i buy the multiplatform games for it? Would i not buy it for the console that i supposedly love?

No the difference between me and you is that when i buy a console (and i have all three) i don't think that means i have to ride the companies who made them dick. I will not say something is great simply because i own the console it is on. If i think the game is shit i will say it is shit. That is being "normal". To keep saying nice things about something simply for the sake of it is "fanboyism".

Which brings us full circle to my 1st post which obviously angred you into having some sort of lying fit.

Here is the metacritic score of Mag http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/mag average score as i said

Here is the UK chart http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032 MAG is not even in the top 40, like i said.

So if your going to come at someone as i keep trying to tell you, grow a pair and try and engage in discussion with facts, things i have actually said and done. Like this amazon thing....dude wtf are you even talking about? I went over my recent posts on the ps3 shortage thing and i mentioned amazon once, the other 8 links where of other sites just like target,walmart,gamestop etc etc. How you picked up that i prefered them when i linked them with so many other sites is pretty spooky. 

 

So I guess FF 13 is a flop already because you can pre order that for £31, bioshock 2 is selling for £26 already that a flop aswell?

 

Hardly any games are £39.99 anymore, hell even MW2 could be got for £20 on release.


Heavy Rain flopped in UK too... wait... we got reports it sold phenominally there

And GoW flopped in US... oh well we'll get em next time sony...

You want facts? Like your fact of MAG not being in the top 40? LOL!!! ITS NUMBER 32!!!!!!! UP FROM LAST WEEK!

Like I said... this guy needs to tell him stuff over and over again for him to believe what he posts. His posts are always full of inaccuracies.

"Here is the metacritic score of Mag http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/mag average score as i said"

Oh... like you said? thats funny... because I could have sworn you said

"People read the awful reviews and did not buy the game" and "Because the game fucking stinks. It is piss poor"

I love how fast you change your tone... average is far from "awful" and "fucking stinks" and "piss poor"



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Hyruken on 04 March 2010
letsdance said:
HKN said:
Hyruken said:
letsdance said:

Anyway... since you love using Amazon so much...

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=MAG

Guess your favorite website just showed how big of a hypocrite you are... how does that make you feel?

BTW just for good measure.

http://www.gamestop.com/browse/search.aspx?N=0&Ntk=TitleKeyword&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntt=MAG

http://www.target.com/gp/search/178-0655465-7709436?field-keywords=MAG&url=index%3Dtarget%26search-alias%3Dtgt-index&ref=sr_bx_1_1

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;jsessionid=4CC80614DA6900B9258925F9A73B6FF1.bbolsp-app04-41?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&_dynSessConf=-4479881763372108799&id=pcat17071&type=page&st=MAG&sc=Global&cp=1&nrp=15&sp=&qp=&list=n&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960

Oh... and lets not forget

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=MAG

To cancel out your UK arguement.

I'm surprised you didn't try using Amazon to begin with... oh wait... it doesn't support your agenda... on to the next site that might.

 

You spout the same anti sony rhetoric post after post. Its hilarious. "Ps3 exclusive massively hyped" "Ps3 exclusive massively advertised" "Ps3 exclusive sucks" "Ps3 exclusive massively under performs"

Your post have always and will always remain garbage.


wow nerd rage!

Firstly where have i mentioned Amazon?! I said "Game", that is not amazon is it? To mention things i have not even said is pretty lame dude, just like before if your going to bash someone then please for the love of god at least stick to the truth rather then making something up like you have.

Secondly we were talking about UK not US, i don't think you even have that shop in the states....To then go off on one about shops in states is pretty irelivent seeing as again we are not talking about states....

But if you want to talk about that then fine. You just linked games at $59, all in stock. Here in the UK like i mentioned in my post that for some reason you decided to ignore i said "full price is £39.99" You will not find it at full price currently".

Here are a list of non amazon uk websites where it is not at full price (£39.99)

http://www.shopto.net/PS3/VIDEO%20GAMES/PS3MA07-MAG%20Massive%20Action%20Game.html

http://www.thehut.com/games/platforms/ps3/mag-massive-action-game/10062551.html?utm_source=googleprod&utm_medium=gp&utm_campaign=gp_games

http://www.gamestation.co.uk/search.aspx?s=MAG+(Massive+Action+Game

http://shop.gameplay.co.uk/webstore/productpage.asp?productcode=PX0531

http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/4-/6072223/MAG/Product.html?&_$ja=tsid:11518%7Ccc:%7Cprd:6072223%7Ccat:Action

etc etc, i can write another 20 if you like? All MAG all not at full price, like i said and not one of them amazon, a site im supposedly obsessed with.....

Which is actually quite funny because you linked amazon and it showed you it was nearly £6 (15%) off the standard price. Guess you missed that bit when getting so worked up right?

So a lot of personal attacks in there, i appreciate those. But this is the best bit. You say i say the anti sony stuff implying i am a anti ps3 person. If you look at my signature you will see my gamer cards for both 360 and ps3. If you actually bothered to look at those you would see i have not bought any new 360 games for a loooongtime. Where as if you looked at my PS3 profile you would see some interesting stuff, like for example all the games i have played on it with one of the most recent being a title you may have heard of called "MAG". And today i have a new game for it called "Bad Company 2", which is on the PS3. If i was such an anti sony guy why would i buy the multiplatform games for it? Would i not buy it for the console that i supposedly love?

No the difference between me and you is that when i buy a console (and i have all three) i don't think that means i have to ride the companies who made them dick. I will not say something is great simply because i own the console it is on. If i think the game is shit i will say it is shit. That is being "normal". To keep saying nice things about something simply for the sake of it is "fanboyism".

Which brings us full circle to my 1st post which obviously angred you into having some sort of lying fit.

Here is the metacritic score of Mag http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/mag average score as i said

Here is the UK chart http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032 MAG is not even in the top 40, like i said.

So if your going to come at someone as i keep trying to tell you, grow a pair and try and engage in discussion with facts, things i have actually said and done. Like this amazon thing....dude wtf are you even talking about? I went over my recent posts on the ps3 shortage thing and i mentioned amazon once, the other 8 links where of other sites just like target,walmart,gamestop etc etc. How you picked up that i prefered them when i linked them with so many other sites is pretty spooky. 

 

So I guess FF 13 is a flop already because you can pre order that for £31, bioshock 2 is selling for £26 already that a flop aswell?

 

Hardly any games are £39.99 anymore, hell even MW2 could be got for £20 on release.


Heavy Rain flopped in UK too... wait... we got reports it sold phenominally there

And GoW flopped in US... oh well we'll get em next time sony...

You want facts? Like your fact of MAG not being in the top 40? LOL!!! ITS NUMBER 32!!!!!!! UP FROM LAST WEEK!

Like I said... this guy needs to tell him stuff over and over again for him to believe what he posts. His posts are always full of inaccuracies.

"Here is the metacritic score of Mag http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/mag average score as i said"

Oh... like you said? thats funny... because I could have sworn you said

"People read the awful reviews and did not buy the game" and "Because the game fucking stinks. It is piss poor"

I love how fast you change your tone... average is far from "awful" and "fucking stinks" and "piss poor"


Mate you really are making me laugh!

The chart you just used is the COMBINED chart not the INDIVIDUAL chart. That means if a game is on 2 platforms it is counted as one platform. Way to go, that makes your argument a lot stronger!

As for the rest of your post you just keep contradicting yourself.....

Like quoting me about the MAG reviews. Does it really take a genius to work out good reviews = better sales then bad reviews? That is why we have reviews so people can get a gauge of opinion. Not many people buy stuff blind. Are you really that dumb?

Awful reviews means the content of those reviews, there is far more negativity in each of those reviews then positivity. The sad fact is people today look at 7/10 scores as mediocre. Show me a game that sold millions with a 7 score.

As for the Heavy Rain comment again wtf are you talking about? Heavy Rain has got great reviews and has sold very well in its first week, it is a very good game. Again stop making stuff up to try and suit your argument because it is pathetic. Your trying to put words into my mouth which i have not said which just makes you looklike some crazy wierdo.

Everything i have said is my opinion, but the charts stats etc are all facts. Where as yours have been pulled from your ass and totally made up, and your the one saying im the one making it up?! That is some fucked up logic right there. If your going to question someones posts because you don't agree with them or you don't like some of the facts presented then if your going to go on some sort of rightous crusade and be personal then as i have mentioned to you four times now at least use real facts and real quotes. Anyone can attack someone by making stuff up. I could do that to you but why would i? Unlike you im not a twat!



letsdance on 04 March 2010

I maybe making you laugh but you are making my sides burst.

I used the chart YOU posted. Which are the individual charts. And even if I didn't the combined chart still has it in the top 40. Something you were wrong about.

Like I've been saying in this thread. You have no clue what you are posting or talking about.

I'm done with you. You make youself look sooo silly. I'm going back to skipping over your posts now. Bye.



letsdance on 04 March 2010

OT: As much as some posters would lead you to believe MAG's budget is highly unlikely that big. An online only game with the Devs also working on a bigger project where most of their resources went. Zipper only has 150 employees. I'd be very shocked if more than 60 people worked on MAG when their flagship franchise (Single player and Multi player unlike MAG) was being worked on side by side with this. Also, this game has only been known for a year and a half before its launch. If Uncharted 2 only cost 20 million and this game has only multiplayer, fewer people working on it, less dev time, and non of the production costs I'd say this game would need less than 500k to make a healthy profit.

Think of it this way... If it did cost as much as Uncharted 2 it would have already turned a profit anyways...



SaviorX on 04 March 2010

MAG has probably succeeded already.



Leatherhat on July 6th, 2012 3pm. Vita sales:"3 mil for COD 2 mil for AC. Maybe more. "  thehusbo on July 6th, 2012 5pm. Vita sales:"5 mil for COD 2.2 mil for AC."

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Hyruken on 04 March 2010
letsdance said:
I maybe making you laugh but you are making my sides burst.

I used the chart YOU posted. Which are the individual charts. And even if I didn't the combined chart still has it in the top 40. Something you were wrong about.

Like I've been saying in this thread. You have no clue what you are posting or talking about.

I'm done with you. You make youself look sooo silly. I'm going back to skipping over your posts now. Bye.


All you seem to do is lie.... That was not the chart i linked you.....This was the chart i linked you http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032  see how it is the same chart in my post you even quoted?!

How was i wrong about it being in the individual chart when i said it is not in there and it is not in there?! You were the one who said it had gone up a place when even in your combined chart it has not gone up a place it is the same 36 as it was last week.....another lie you have told.

I don't see how i am looking bad here. You have just made up a bunch of stuff and none of it is true. You have been called on your allegations and have replied with even more lies, did mommy not teach you lying was wrong? If someone standing up to you and the crap your writing makes you laugh then i am glad you find it funny. Because from my perspective you are one strange person who has no clue what they are talking about and because you can't actually defend the crap you spout at people you just make it up as you go and go for personal attacks etc.. Which as i said before is pretty sad. So skip my posts, i would prefer it because it is like talking to my 3 year old nephew, at least he doesn't lie.



ctalkeb on 04 March 2010
Hyruken said:

 

How was i wrong about it being in the individual chart when i said it is not in there and it is not in there?! You were the one who said it had gone up a place when even in your combined chart it has not gone up a place it is the same 36 as it was last week.....another lie you have told.

 

Your posts are so amusing.

 



letsdance on 04 March 2010
ctalkeb said:
Hyruken said:

 

How was i wrong about it being in the individual chart when i said it is not in there and it is not in there?! You were the one who said it had gone up a place when even in your combined chart it has not gone up a place it is the same 36 as it was last week.....another lie you have told.

 

Your posts are so amusing.

 


I know... right.



Hyruken on 04 March 2010
letsdance said:
ctalkeb said:
Hyruken said:

 

How was i wrong about it being in the individual chart when i said it is not in there and it is not in there?! You were the one who said it had gone up a place when even in your combined chart it has not gone up a place it is the same 36 as it was last week.....another lie you have told.

 

Your posts are so amusing.

 


I know... right.


Not as amusing as A, linking a website to say a game was full price without looking at it and seeing the 15% off tag next to it? or B, saying a game had gone up the charts to imply it had started to do well again when really it was the same number? or finally C, quoting a chart by someone else but then say they didn't link that chart? Indeed very amusing ;)



ctalkeb on 04 March 2010
Hyruken said:

 ;)

This makes you look more, not less, silly.