If we're isolating questions, this is the only one that matters:

QUESTION: Would you favor or oppose the national government offering everyone the choice of buying into a government administered health insurance plan -- something like the Medicare coverage that people 65 and older get -- that would compete with private health insurance plans?

                         FAVOR   OPPOSE   NOT SURE
NEVADA (Reid)
ALL                        56%     38%       6%
INDEPENDENTS      61%     35%       4%
OBAMA VOTERS     75%     13%     12%

ILLINOIS (Durbin, Burris)
ALL                        68%     26%       6%
INDEPENDENTS      69%     22%       9%
OBAMA VOTERS     87%       6%       7%

WASHINGTON (Murray, Cantwell)
ALL                        65%     28%       7%
INDEPENDENTS      67%     25%       8%
OBAMA VOTERS     79%     11%     10%

MISSOURI (McCaskill)
ALL                        57%     35%       8%
INDEPENDENTS      56%     33%     11%
OBAMA VOTERS     76%     18%       6%

VIRGINIA (Webb, Warner)
ALL                        61%     32%       7%
INDEPENDENTS      62%     30%       8%
OBAMA VOTERS     78%     15%       7%

IOWA (Harkin)
ALL                        62%     31%       7%
INDEPENDENTS      61%     29%     10%
OBAMA VOTERS     78%     14%       8%

MINNESOTA (Klobuchar, Franken)
ALL                        62%     33%       5%
INDEPENDENTS      62%     32%       6%
OBAMA VOTERS     82%     15%       3%

COLORADO (Udall, Bennet)
ALL                        58%     36%       6%
INDEPENDENTS      59%     34%       7%
OBAMA VOTERS     78%     17%       5%

Are you familiar with priming?  If so you'd understand why you can't isolate questions and why a couple biased ones ruin a questionaire.

You also missed out this part.

MN and CO polls used slightly different language for this question: "Which do you think should be a higher priority for congressional Democrats right now – working in a bipartisan way with Republicans in Congress or fighting for policies that will benefit working families, even if those policies can only be passed with Democratic votes?"

Damnit my Heavy Rain save data won't load for some reason...FML

OT: I don't know where you live, but in my state (MN) or at least the county most people I know live in (Hennepin), a person in that situation can get rent assistance as well as EBT cards (AND my sister got free furniture which was......until I had to get it and set it up). I believe you mean Medicaid not Medicare and in which case both programs are terrible. And supporting children on a $9/hour part time salary would exempt you from having to get insurance.

I've participated in several phone polls, a couple were obviously Republican backed and they had questions in the same vein.

I didn't miss anything, what you pointed out has nothing to do with the question I highlited.

Which totally defeats the purpose.  Even with all thsat stuff it's hard... and also... if you've read the insurance bill you'd know the vast overwhelming majority of the plan is to expand those programs to poorer people when it comes to the people we talk about.

Which you know... were also badly biased and shouldn't be used in an arguement.  Like... i've already said in this thread... both parties do it, and both polls should be ignored in favor of the more nuetral ones.  Like CNN polls... even though they do lean slightly left.

So you don't understand priming though... that's fine...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priming_%28psychology%29

Read that... then you'll understand better.  One biased question pollutes an entire survey.

Lets be realistic here. The Democrats that are trying to pass this monstrosity are ideologues, and many don't care if they lose their seats to get this passed. They know that if they get this done, we'll never get rid of it, unless there is a revolution of epic proportions. Look at Social Security, and Medicare; extremely poorly run government concepts, but people are now dependent on it. The same will happen with this. If it gets passed, this albatross will be just another thing to choke the lifeblood out of this country.

We have one shred of hope left.. the Supreme Court.

If this shit passes, let's hope for the change that will overturn it. I don't think requiring people to buy a health insurance policy will stand up in court.

Oh I hope they don't do what the public wants.  If this country ever started listening to public opinion, we might as well sign our own death sentence.  As Mafoo stated, we need to do what the founders intended us to do... and they in know way whatsoever intended the elected politicians to give too much of a damn about what public opinion was.  They know, just like I do, public opinion can be easily swayed and manipulated and therefore not trustworthy.  I know I wouldn't trust the people I go to college with, or the people in my state or any group like that to make a decision to benefit the entire country.  Hell I hardly trust the people we have elected haha.

Personally, I wouldn't be stunned if they did actually do this, and well couldn't blame them.  They are playing politics and that is how it seems to go.  The problem seems to be, is this health care reform thing has become something similar to the abortion debate or gay marriage.  Factions on either side are trying to manipulate the issue into being a false dichotomy and its wrong.  Because of it, we aren't actually discussing health care but discussing things that may have nothing to do with it.  I'm not a big fan of the bill and think they should start over.  I would hope they don't just get rid of it and I would hope they just don't pass it... should learn from the stimulus and financial bailout that passing "incomplete" bills is a bad idea. 

All I know, is the health care system is extremely fucked up and to live in a country such as this, things like that shouldn't happen.  Shouldn't be constantly laughed at by the canadians or the Europeans.  I don't think socialized medicine is the right idea, but I also don't think CORPORATE monoply on medicine is good either.  These politicans need to stop playing king of the hill at Capital Hill and start discussing the real issues to find a solution to the problem that is an actual one.  Enough with the scapegoats and start doing their job.  And more so, Obama needs to seriously but out.  It's not the role of the President to intervene in that matter.  I know Republicans and Democrats have done it in that position well before, especially the last one, but it still isn't the role of the presdient.  He can propose what he wants done, but what actually gets done is up to the Congress.  His ratings would be higher if that happened (though the silly conservative pundits would then bash him for not doing anything but who cares what they think). 

Well let's not give the supreme court to much credit.  If they had been doing their job all alone, they could have found a lot of the practices by the insurance companies are already uncosntitutional.  Not to mention, for anyone that loves capitalism should probably be checking these guys out as well as they infringe on that luxury every day.  Overturning this bill, won't get us to an ideal setting, but it will stop one that is unideal as well. 

Of course if the government actually cared about a lot of my constitutional rights then there would be as many issues.  Hell if the people arguing this, including those on forums like this, actually knew what a lot of those constitutional rights were, then maybe things like this wouldn't get anywhere.  The easiest way you can lose your rights is by not knowing which ones you've lost.  And that's what the American public has been allowing for years.