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Kasz216 said:
Only the democrats could ruin the almost complete death of the opposing party by pushing through legislation most of the people in the US don't even want and won't even accomplish anything except rise the national debt.

Had they focused on the economy and stuff the public actually wanted done... they could of nearly dealt the republicans a death blow.

Oh I hope they don't do what the public wants.  If this country ever started listening to public opinion, we might as well sign our own death sentence.  As Mafoo stated, we need to do what the founders intended us to do... and they in know way whatsoever intended the elected politicians to give too much of a damn about what public opinion was.  They know, just like I do, public opinion can be easily swayed and manipulated and therefore not trustworthy.  I know I wouldn't trust the people I go to college with, or the people in my state or any group like that to make a decision to benefit the entire country.  Hell I hardly trust the people we have elected haha.

 

Personally, I wouldn't be stunned if they did actually do this, and well couldn't blame them.  They are playing politics and that is how it seems to go.  The problem seems to be, is this health care reform thing has become something similar to the abortion debate or gay marriage.  Factions on either side are trying to manipulate the issue into being a false dichotomy and its wrong.  Because of it, we aren't actually discussing health care but discussing things that may have nothing to do with it.  I'm not a big fan of the bill and think they should start over.  I would hope they don't just get rid of it and I would hope they just don't pass it... should learn from the stimulus and financial bailout that passing "incomplete" bills is a bad idea. 

All I know, is the health care system is extremely fucked up and to live in a country such as this, things like that shouldn't happen.  Shouldn't be constantly laughed at by the canadians or the Europeans.  I don't think socialized medicine is the right idea, but I also don't think CORPORATE monoply on medicine is good either.  These politicans need to stop playing king of the hill at Capital Hill and start discussing the real issues to find a solution to the problem that is an actual one.  Enough with the scapegoats and start doing their job.  And more so, Obama needs to seriously but out.  It's not the role of the President to intervene in that matter.  I know Republicans and Democrats have done it in that position well before, especially the last one, but it still isn't the role of the presdient.  He can propose what he wants done, but what actually gets done is up to the Congress.  His ratings would be higher if that happened (though the silly conservative pundits would then bash him for not doing anything but who cares what they think).