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has Randy couture retired yet. How many comebacks has he had. Just give it up already. lol



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oldschoolfool said:
has Randy couture retired yet. How many comebacks has he had. Just give it up already. lol

Blasphemy.... Capin AMerica will neevr retire!!!

First 50 years old Champ right there!!!!



oldschoolfool said:
has Randy couture retired yet. How many comebacks has he had. Just give it up already. lol

I don't understand why Couture gets so much hate.  He's a great athlete and a classy sportsman.  True, the Natural has been showing his age as of late, and I doubt he'll win a belt again, but he's still a legitimate threat to his opponents.

If anything, it's guys like Ken Shamrock who should consider retiring.



Alasted said:
oldschoolfool said:
has Randy couture retired yet. How many comebacks has he had. Just give it up already. lol

I don't understand why Couture gets so much hate.  He's a great athlete and a classy sportsman.  True, the Natural has been showing his age as of late, and I doubt he'll win a belt again, but he's still a legitimate threat to his opponents.

If anything, it's guys like Ken Shamrock who should consider retiring.

Randy has been showing his age for 5 years now hehe still has not stoped him from winning a belt. 

Guys like Nog and Mirko are way closer to retirement then Randy. 



Hus said:
supercat said:

GSP has great stamina

Silva, not so much but the brothas usually dont have that anyway, that's why they usually do short distance track events. Nothing wrong with that, you just have to know your opponent with combat sports, and if you can get somebody that can wear silva out, you might find somebody that can be dominant in the later rounds or even knock his ass out.  Now, I could be wrong about silva's stamina, but he wins almost every fight in the first round, so that leads me to beleive that he is a typical brotha, great at first round then tires out.

Well you are a new mma fan aint yahh.  Have you seen Anderson fights not just his high light reel, 5 rounds with Leites 3 with Cote ?  The man barely breaks a sweat.

Dude the man has not even been knocked down his entire career, yet some one knock his ass out. 

Beating Anderson is simple, avoid his strikes get near him clinch and get him down beofre he hurts you in the clinch.  On the ground maintain dominant positin with out getting subed, pepper him with strikes with out him reversing position.  Do that for 5 rounds and bam The Spider lost his belt.

... hehe simple. 

 

90% of his fights end in the first round dumdum, that should tell you that he's powerful upfront but tires.  That's standard kineaseology theory, the explosive athletes of the sports world wont have great endurance, and in fact, explosive power is directly inverse to endurance.   So, that should tell you that by round 3, he wont be as flashy, and will start taking more punches and takedowns.  In fact, with a 5 rounder, if his opponent wins round 3, he has a good chance of winning the last two, and winning the fight by decision. 



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supercat said:

 

90% of his fights end in the first round dumdum, that should tell you that he's powerful upfront but tires.  That's standard kineaseology theory, the explosive athletes of the sports world wont have great endurance, and in fact, explosive power is directly inverse to endurance.   So, that should tell you that by round 3, he wont be as flashy, and will start taking more punches and takedowns.  In fact, with a 5 rounder, if his opponent wins round 3, he has a good chance of winning the last two, and winning the fight by decision. 

You have never fought have you.

Andersons flashyness depends on the skills of his opponent not his endurance. 

He does not load up his punches, he trows them very naturally.  He does not ko people with brutal power but volume precision, his striking does not burn lots of energy.  Hes got a incredably efficinet fighting style. 

 

 



Hus, I've done boxing/tkd concurrently and wrestled during HS, also was my PE class's (of 50 people) wrestling champion although that's no special honor. Keyboard warriors like yourself usually talk big, but have never really done anything. I have, that's the difference.

secondly, it might be a good idea to just observe a fighter's work rate, level of busyness, how "explosive" the fighter is, and how much bodyfat/conditioning the fighter has. All of this will play into how long the fighter can go. Flashier styles with a lot of footwork/dodging make fighters tired faster, that's just a fact, son. Fighters that win their fights in the first round, like fedor, siilva, randleman, etc just wont have great endurance and any good wrestler like sonnen that also has a pretty good boxing, gnp game will look great against silva by round 3, but that's just b/c andy silva will be getting tired if his opponent is actually fighting well.



Hus said:
Lolcislaw said:
Hus said:
Anderson will lose soon enough, more likely at 205 if he fight any one worth a damn.

At 185 UFC just got rid of his biggest threat by refusing to pay Hendo what he wanted.

He fought Griffin who is a former champ that beat Rampage and Rua, he proved himself at 205 and made him look silly. Anderson can beat anyone in 205.

Hendo had his shot, he got chocked out, i did not like the way UFC treated him in the end but i doubt he had any chance.

I think Vera vs. Jones is going to be extremely interesting, Jones is very explosive but Vera has a lot of experience behind him. But on that Card im most looking forward to see Junior Dos Santos again.

@Charmain-Mao

Check out next Strike Force event in April (in America is going to be on CBS), awesome card with People like Schields, Henderson, Mouassi, Lawal and Aoki (who is a beast) 

 

Forrest is mediocre but hes got heart and balls.  He beat a post injuty ring rust Rua.  Have Shogun fight him now and hed destroy Forrest.  Rampage had the most dumbass strategy possible, nothing but boxing agianst a taller rangier opponent.  The mam aint all there mentally.  Good name wins but factor in everyhting they were not worth all that much. 

Machida Shogun Rashad would smck him around, while oldies like Randy and Vlady have the style and brains to beat him. 

Hell Vera has the all around skill to beat Anderson. 

I think you overestimate Randy, all he can do nowdays is hug medicore people against the cage. He should have lost to Vera (who would never even come close to beat silva) if his fight with Rich Franklin materialises Randy is going to get KTFO, he is too old and should retire. 

Also looking at other people you mentioned, Rashad wouldnt stand a chance against Anderson he nearly got Knocked out by Thiago Silva the other day, and Anderson probably would finish him in the 1st round, and even if Sugar takes him down he wouldnt be able to damage him without getting submitted.

And Griffin might not be the greatest fighter out there, but dude deserves respect for what he accomplished. I cant wait for his fight with Lil Nog.



supercat said:
Hus, I've done boxing/tkd concurrently and wrestled during HS, also was my PE class's (of 50 people) wrestling champion although that's no special honor. Keyboard warriors like yourself usually talk big, but have never really done anything. I have, that's the difference.

secondly, it might be a good idea to just observe a fighter's work rate, level of busyness, how "explosive" the fighter is, and how much bodyfat/conditioning the fighter has. All of this will play into how long the fighter can go. Flashier styles with a lot of footwork/dodging make fighters tired faster, that's just a fact, son. Fighters that win their fights in the first round, like fedor, siilva, randleman, etc just wont have great endurance and any good wrestler like sonnen that also has a pretty good boxing, gnp game will look great against silva by round 3, but that's just b/c andy silva will be getting tired if his opponent is actually fighting well.

I do amateur Muay Thai, go take some elbovs to the face and knees to the body them come talk to me you mighty warrior.  Differance is i have stepped in the ring vs grow man that had intention of knocking me the fuk out while fighting under the most brutal rules.  

Since when does Fedor have bad cardio ? you are using the wrong fighters to prove you non existant point.  Well you did boxing, many pros go 12 rounds with lot of footwork/dodging and they are fine cardio wise. 

You act liek Sonnen wont be getting tired trying to take anderson down and keeping him there.  And before he ever does that he will take punishment tiring him out even more.

No real mma fan lists enduace as a way to beat Anderson.  Go watch his fights, he burns out his opponents fast.  His got a very calm style, he does not needlesly waste energy.  Sonnen will burn through his gas tank fast just by avoiding Andersons submissions. 

Finishing fights in the first round in no way shape of from means the figher has bad cardio.

Sonnen has pretty good boxing lol compared to who. 

 

 



The thing about wrestling is that it's a perfect style for fighters to use, in fact that's one of it's biggest uses is to tire the other guy out and draw out the fight. It's not good for finishing fights, which you should realize, but it will tire the other guy out and hurt him some.

Also, if you do MT you have probably realized by now that the more explosive fighters wont have nearly as much endurance. If you are talking about Fedor, well he's the epitome of an explosive fighter. He also has a lot of bodyfat, which will really hurt your endurance because every lb of useless weight is another lb that you have to lug around for no gain.