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Poll: Whose to blame for so much negativity & hatred in the game industry?

Gaming companies 2 2.22%
 
Gaming journalists 23 25.56%
 
Gaming websites 0 0%
 
Gaming fanboys 29 32.22%
 
All of the above 28 31.11%
 
Other 8 8.89%
 
Total:90

Should have put gaming journalists and gaming companies as one
Gaming companies call the journalist for a trip to a nice hotel to get an "exclusive" look at their finished products. The hotel, drinks, food and swag all free of charge thanks to gaming company.
Game journalists take the trip and preview the game and backslap with the gaming company rep amid belly laughs and drinks with high score for the games in the game companies pocket



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Everyone is to blame. Its a cycle. 'Fanboys' as some like to call them have bias and breed anger when people say negative things against their favorite games/ststem or DON'T agree with their opinions. Then journalists, if you can call them that, aren't helping, as they are more and more choosing to cater towards these people and write with their own BIAS and opinions instead of subjective facts or reason. Finally, gaming companies, who should be trying to make money, are instead seemingly full of more and more 'ideallistic' developers who want to 'make games their way' and would rather blow 100 million dollars on the next 'Halo killer' or 'WoW Clone' than actually trying to put a feasable game on the table. And it just turns into more fodder for game 'journalists' and console 'fanboys' since for 3/4 of those people (who it was targeting) it doesn't live up to expectations.

I'd like to also throw up another group who is to blame. Forum surfers/friends. You know the type. Those people who think they know everything about the industry, that 'guy' who drums up an opinion about EVERY game in EVERY conversation about gaming because he surfs IGN and GameSpot 24/7, those people who have to tell you their opinion about every game developer and game ever made. Yeah, those are also a big part of the problem. The 'know-it-alls' who are starting half the 'rumors' and telling people 'don't buy that game, it sucks' when they haven't even played the damn thing.

I know some of you after reading that might even be getting a little offended, realizing that hit a little close to home.  Heck, I've done that a few times myself.  But that's the point, we need to not do that.  Just because we surf forums doesn't make us industry insiders and know about games we haven't played.  Heck, it makes us just as bad as sites like IGN who is trying to tell us certain games look bad before they come out (which they are doing now).



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Sony and Microsoft together are the biggest fanboys of all. They have fanned the bullshit for three years now and they continue to drive a wedge between each other, and Nintendo.

Theyre only doing it because it works.



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

I blame myself.



mhsillen said:
Should have put gaming journalists and gaming companies as one
Gaming companies call the journalist for a trip to a nice hotel to get an "exclusive" look at their finished products. The hotel, drinks, food and swag all free of charge thanks to gaming company.
Game journalists take the trip and preview the game and backslap with the gaming company rep amid belly laughs and drinks with high score for the games in the game companies pocket

I imagine its even less obvious than this. MS have already been in trouble for threatening to lift free or cheaper Operating Software support for certain companies in the past. Sony meanwhile have recording equiptment, cameras, music and tv/ film rights to barter with.

When companies get this big, with this much power, there is bound to be motivation for bias.



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

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It's nice to consider it's the journalist, or the company. But what you might have all missed. Is that I was dicussing the console wars a year after the NES and Sega Master system was released. I can tell you now. That the fanboys of yester years are IN the industry today.

So it's the Fanboys fault because they are in the industry spewing BS all over the place.



Squilliam: On Vgcharts its a commonly accepted practice to twist the bounds of plausibility in order to support your argument or agenda so I think its pretty cool that this gives me the precedent to say whatever I damn well please.

Don't forget the viral forum trolls.

I voted for All of the Above.



This site remains one of the last Bastian's for reasonable game info and discussion.
It's very negative out there



The fanboys without a doubt.



Well, first and foremost I find myself looking at MS and Sony, and forgive me 360 fans but particularly MS.

MS really seemed to set a very aggressive tone around the 360, and foster the feeling of Xbox fans transitioning to the 360 that their console and favourite games like Halo had been unfairly put down, and that this time they were gonna' win! They were gonna' whup ass and that the 360 was the best, the biggest, had the most exclusives, etc.

Sony of course didn't help with a nice mix of arrogance and fighting talk themselves and on and off both companies continue to fan the flames.

Thus, there was just a huge sense of competition in the literal sense from the get go I felt, which has only grown over the course of time, fed by each swing in fortunes or moments of 'shoe on the other foot' revenge.

The fanboys who ate this environment up of course then played their part vocally - and continue to do so. Often with statements that boggle my mind and actually make me a trifle annoyed as they literally insult your intelligence with their nonsense at times.

Then of course certain (not all) the gaming press, particularly the more, shall we say focused, sites, joined in too - feeding the flames with comparisons of game versions, fans pouring over shots looking for tiny differences, etc.

Then Nintendo had to release the Wii with motion controls and nice, clean family games... didn't they realize the effect that would have when it sold more than the 360 and PS3?

So I'm going to go for more or less everyone but I feel the shit throwing was started by the companies themselves in the first place.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...