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Guess the answer is "no we can't drop it". Fine then.

First, no you didn't say anything about KZ2, but I know someone would eventually, since people somehow think that lighting is amazing, while it really isn't.

2nd, so now we're basing how technically advanced a game is on how the engine is named? And what makes you think the "Alan Wake engine" could not be a multi-purpose engine? 

3rd, UC2 is a corridor shooter period. Being able to see the horizon doesn't mean it's not a corridor shooter. It might look huge, but it doesn't count because you can't actually go to the background locations to see the details. Not to mention the "fixed" camera (though it's some awesome camera work..). Whether you're climbing, or you're going through a town or whatever, it remains a linear game. As for the draw distance, you're being fooled. There isn't any complex tessellated geometry or terrain in that game. The popular "huge draw distance" part with the mountains, pretty much uses simple geometry (low poly meshes) more than anything else. Dynamic environments are pretty much non-existent, especially far away (some exceptions of course..). 
Alan Wake isn't trying to be open-world like GTA or Oblivion obviously. Same as how Bungie is calling Reach a sandbox game now. It's not like GTA, but it's not a small path that you're forced to follow either. From what we've seen of AW, the level of exploration is much greater, you'll rarely be going through pure corridor levels. It's a big environment. Being in a bigger environment forces you to compromise in the graphics department. So you can talk all you want about "I look at what the engine can do", but you refuse to look at limitations and priorities and refer to "what I see on screen determines what's more advanced or not, and gameplay doesn't matter", and that's completely false. Gameplay will ALWAYS have an influence on how far you can go with graphics.

I don't know why people do that.

The difference is that the AW engine is built for AW while the ND engine is not for the sole purpose of UC2. That's why something like the Cryengine 2 and  Cryengine 3 are so advanced. The same concept as Dragon Age vs ME2, from the same company. Remember that I'm comparing the features and versitilities of the engine here on the perspective hardwares they are running on, not the game themselves.

Corridor shooter is an old term for stuff like quake 1- doom3 where the maps are limited to corridors, as linear as UC2 is, it's a shooter with corridor parts, not a corridor shooter. We'll only tell how non-linear AW is once it comes out, but keep in mind that those are game design decisions, not a limitation to the ND engine. I'm also not talking about mountain ranges, I'm talking about things with buildings like this:

that's a hell of a way to fool my eyes, unless you are trying to tell me that it's the hardware power that's the difference and both engines are on equal grounds.

also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox_game   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonlinear_gameplay     read, thank you. Lets see how AW is once it comes out, I'm interested to see which one it belongs to.

Geez.. You didn't understand jack of what I said in my previous post. Coming up with pictures doesn't prove anything. That's why I usually don't start with these discussions in the first place.. I'm outta here. Go waste someone else's time. Believe whatever you want to.

You're right, you were always right, and you will always be right. Happy now? Ok good. Bye.

Lol. Night.
you should know thou shall not metion U2 unless in reference to perfection.
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Brilliant news. Buying this day one.

if you are interested, you can always youtube that level, eventually it goes into a mesh obviously, has no effect on the game play but sure looks nice, feel free to watch it in motion /shrug

the only thing you are saying is they are different games and shouldn't be compared, and I'm saying you shouldn't compare the games, but you sure as hell can compare what the engines can do on the hardwares they are running on, in which case you still mumur about sandbox, open world, and corridor when you don't even use the terms correctly, prolly not even on the same topic tbh.

i  think this is one of those games that are very hard to predict, its a new ip and its comingo out in may, the sales could range anywhere between 1-4mln, and as far as critical reception i just don't know, so far on all the major podcast or site previews, there hasnt been any spectacular hype, and the game is no where to be found on the pre order charts. I would really like to play this game however looks great, and i loved luigi mansion and silent hill 2 which this looks to combine with a twin peak storyline(also loved). so hopefully above 90percent on meta and at least 2mln copies.

it is not like U2 and AW were 2 TPS ... wait, they are 2 TPS !!!

after this, it is all about the numbers of stuff going on screen at the same time ... wait and see

IS RUNNING ON A TOP OF A MOVING TRAIN CLASSIFIED AS A CORRIDOR SEQUENCE??

SORRY FOR THE CAPS I CAN'T BE BOTHERED