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Well, the Earth goes through natural warming and cooling periods, but we may be changing the weather.



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leo-j said:
That explains why the polar ice caps are smaller than they were 30 years ago, and why we continually destroy records during winters, and during summers.. and why the ozone layer has been thining out..

I guess its all fake, we should continue to emmit excessive CO2, just because we can't accept we are harming the planet.


Its common belief that we are in a climate cycle, yes this isn't helped by excessive emmisions but its largly natural.

Also some polar ice caps are melting others are being formed all the time. Because of this there are now more polar bears than ever before! All thanks to more habitats!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article2852551.ece



leo-j said:
That explains why the polar ice caps are smaller than they were 30 years ago, and why we continually destroy records during winters, and during summers.. and why the ozone layer has been thining out..

I guess its all fake, we should continue to emmit excessive CO2, just because we can't accept we are harming the planet.

The issue here is that these experts have repeatedly refused to give evidence to back up their claims. Now, they say they lost the data. The fact is, is that this look really bad on their part. If they would provide the data that led them to the conclusion that we're causing harm to the planet, then I'd gladly believe it. But they haven't. And now, we have evidence showing that they tried to cover a lot of this stuff up (the "climategate" stuff they talked about in that article).



sguy78 said:
leo-j said:
That explains why the polar ice caps are smaller than they were 30 years ago, and why we continually destroy records during winters, and during summers.. and why the ozone layer has been thining out..

I guess its all fake, we should continue to emmit excessive CO2, just because we can't accept we are harming the planet.

Keep on drinking the kool-aid.


whos drinking koolaid

maybe the specifics are wrong whatever.  but do you not think we have an effect on plant and animal life?

are you that naive?



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Pyramid Head said:
i love all this talk.

whether we make the planet hot or not is not the issue

we ARE destroying the planet, KILLING species every day, and destroying all plant life

but this whole 'climate gate' thing turns it into a talk about taxes, secret deals, and the nwo

it might be lies, it may not be, but either way WE ARE DESTROYING THIS PLANET

Do you still believe polar bears are going extinct?



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sguy78 said:
Pyramid Head said:
i love all this talk.

whether we make the planet hot or not is not the issue

we ARE destroying the planet, KILLING species every day, and destroying all plant life

but this whole 'climate gate' thing turns it into a talk about taxes, secret deals, and the nwo

it might be lies, it may not be, but either way WE ARE DESTROYING THIS PLANET

Do you still believe polar bears are going extinct?


5 times more polar bears now than there were 25 years ago. See link above for further infomation.



sguy78 said:
Pyramid Head said:
i love all this talk.

whether we make the planet hot or not is not the issue

we ARE destroying the planet, KILLING species every day, and destroying all plant life

but this whole 'climate gate' thing turns it into a talk about taxes, secret deals, and the nwo

it might be lies, it may not be, but either way WE ARE DESTROYING THIS PLANET

Do you still believe polar bears are going extinct?


its not SPECIFICALLY about polar bears or this or thatI

I do believe that we've lost hundreds of thousands of species since the industrial revolution.  i do believe we clear cut the rainforest every day.  I notice that theres places i could swim as a kid that i cant swim now.  but its all lies from the goverment eh?

im just saying that this news does not mean that we are not killing the planet.  maybe just not changing the weather.

im not at home, but i had a link to an article that showed a bunch of climate gate sites and organisations were funded by exxon.  wish i had the link.

its just funny, one detail may be wrong, but its got people questioning EVERYTHING.  thatd be great for fossil fuel producers right?

just think a bit is all im saying.  maybe the polar caps have nothing to do with us, doesnt mean a ton of other shit DOES.

 



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Pyramid Head said:
sguy78 said:
Pyramid Head said:
i love all this talk.

whether we make the planet hot or not is not the issue

we ARE destroying the planet, KILLING species every day, and destroying all plant life

but this whole 'climate gate' thing turns it into a talk about taxes, secret deals, and the nwo

it might be lies, it may not be, but either way WE ARE DESTROYING THIS PLANET

Do you still believe polar bears are going extinct?


its not SPECIFICALLY about polar bears or this or thatI

I do believe that we've lost hundreds of thousands of species since the industrial revolution.  i do believe we clear cut the rainforest every day.  I notice that theres places i could swim as a kid that i cant swim now.  but its all lies from the goverment eh?

im just saying that this news does not mean that we are not killing the planet.  maybe just not changing the weather.

im not at home, but i had a link to an article that showed a bunch of climate gate sites and organisations were funded by exxon.  wish i had the link.

its just funny, one detail may be wrong, but its got people questioning EVERYTHING.  thatd be great for fossil fuel producers right?

just think a bit is all im saying.  maybe the polar caps have nothing to do with us, doesnt mean a ton of other shit DOES.

 

In Britain 40 years ago they said that the supply of gas and oil from the North sea would run out within 20 years. Then they raise the taxes on gas and fuel etc. Thsi leads to higher standard goods as they need vehicles for transportation.

Now, 40 years on they say theres around 40 years left, is there any wonder people are thinking the whole humans are destroying the world argument to their advantage to have more "green taxes" placed upon us?



Pyramid Head said:
sguy78 said:
Pyramid Head said:
i love all this talk.

whether we make the planet hot or not is not the issue

we ARE destroying the planet, KILLING species every day, and destroying all plant life

but this whole 'climate gate' thing turns it into a talk about taxes, secret deals, and the nwo

it might be lies, it may not be, but either way WE ARE DESTROYING THIS PLANET

Do you still believe polar bears are going extinct?


its not SPECIFICALLY about polar bears or this or thatI

I do believe that we've lost hundreds of thousands of species since the industrial revolution.  i do believe we clear cut the rainforest every day.  I notice that theres places i could swim as a kid that i cant swim now.  but its all lies from the goverment eh?

im just saying that this news does not mean that we are not killing the planet.  maybe just not changing the weather.

im not at home, but i had a link to an article that showed a bunch of climate gate sites and organisations were funded by exxon.  wish i had the link.

its just funny, one detail may be wrong, but its got people questioning EVERYTHING.  thatd be great for fossil fuel producers right?

just think a bit is all im saying.  maybe the polar caps have nothing to do with us, doesnt mean a ton of other shit DOES.

 

Ah, the classic "If you disbelieve the global warming hypothesis you must be against all other forms of conservation or polution reduction" straw man

Edit: On top of that, the "Oil Funded Anti-Global Warming" conspiracy is completely unfounded being that most fossil fuel based energy companies are heavily funding environmental organizations and the scientists behind the global warming hypothesis. The reason for this is not really known, but it is reasonable to believe that they intend to use their massive cash positions to manipulate carbon markets for massive profit.



the key thing is

if they want to tax you, they will tax you

if one reason falls down, they can call it anything else



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