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Dexorosorous said:
WilliamWatts said:
I thought Sony said they were going to cut out the BS statements?

If the Xbox 360 is out longer, has had a much more steady level of purchasing over time and an older userbase then the index ratio would be expected to decline, especially for yearly games like Madden. People who are already satisfied with content already purchased aren't as likely to go out and buy more but conversely people who just bought a console are likely to be on the hunt for more software.

Publishers aren't looking at the number sold per console they are interested in how many sell overall. If the Xbox 360 still moves more copies then it still moves more copies, simple as that. Also if it fits into the overall porting mindset better with ease of portability with PC then thats also important. Again another reason why hes full of it.

Lastly its the overall revenue and the cost of that revenue which the publishers are looking at. Not only is the Xbox 360 cheaper to create for and gives the publishers more money in DLC and the option of digital distribution on both the Xbox 360 and PC makes the whole 'idea' of filling up a Blu Ray disc a 'bleh' proposition because it closes down these opportunities.

P.S. I know theres a lot of controversy here over the point, but it looks like Sony calls a game coming out on PS3/PC an exclusive in FFXIV. Quite ironic given the rules here to the contrary.

^ haha good job. but then again, you must also look at it on a different perspective. the PS3 was seen as doomed from the start, and here it is in the present day, outselling xbox360 on some software sales, and then overtaking (or almost overtaking) the xbox in overall hardware sales in europe. and the fact that in america, the install base is almost 2-1, i still can't believe that some of the multiplatform games perform a lot better compared to the xbox version. its not entirely BS, but its also not entirely true. all it is are words that are sugar-coated for the weak-minded masses to instill confidence in their products. doesn't microsoft do the same thing?

you're argument is good though, and you nailed the fact that the PS3 considered FF14 an exclusive even though its also coming out for PC. =P

If the userbases were identical in makeup then yes, you would have to be surprised. However the PS3 has a larger proportion of fighting/hack n slash fans (hence the DLC) and it has an audience of movie lovers which also explains the performance and extra content of batman. Its simply the way the cookie crumbles as to the proportions of certain niche audiences each console gets. Shooters + WRPG + multiplayer games perform really well on the Xbox 360 whilst games based on movie IP, fighting, racing and other console 'staple' games perform relatively better on PS3.

The thing which really bothered me about this piece was not particularly the content but the audience it was directed to. There was an outcry when Bobby Kotick made comments negative to the PS3 and this is pretty much the same thing. The publishers all have internal data so this isn't telling them anything new. However by saying it in public all its really doing is putting pressure on the publishers in the same way that Activision put pressure on Sony. This is why I said it was a BS move by Sony. Its really a negative PR piece but its just sugar coated better.

But thanks for your praise, I try to keep my content/noise ratio high.



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makingmusic476 said:
You guys are missing the most important thing here!

There's gonna be another Destination PlayStation! Last year they announced LBP PSP, MS PSP, AC PSP, and a whole slew of release dates at DPS. The year before that they announced the God of War PSP bundle.

And this year they're going to announce nothing!

 

 




Rare has put out five games this gen. I don't see how that's "rarely putting out a game." They're much faster than a lot of Sony's first party (some of whom still haven't made their first real game this gen). Also, Microsoft's first party may be small, but with the exception of Rare, all their first party games usually sell extremely well.

I don't see the point in being critical of Microsoft going to devs like BioWare, Valve, and Epic, where all it takes is one good look at the sales chart to see that that's a pretty successful strategy.

EDIT: And Turn 10 is in Redmond, so yeah, there's a lot of downplaying and misstatements to be found here.



themanwithnoname's law: As an America's sales or NPD thread grows longer, the probabilty of the comment "America = World" [sarcasticly] being made approaches 1.

WilliamWatts said:
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P.S. I know theres a lot of controversy here over the point, but it looks like Sony calls a game coming out on PS3/PC an exclusive in FFXIV. Quite ironic given the rules here to the contrary.

it's not that ironic concidering he doesn't know about the sites rules (obviously) and doesn't care. (obviously)

 

He also sites l4d and mass effect as exclusives.

 

 

 

 

Anyways atleast this guy talks his mind without filters. He doesn't beat around the bush here. Sure he only mentions positive things but he does it in a optimistic and .. well it doesn't seem terribly arrogant way.

 

Also Destination Playstation !



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Hmm, as someone said:


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We passed them in Europe and they don't even exist in Japan, and we're going to catch them and pass them here in the U.S. as well


For vgchartz, this seems the most important. Well, his US statement is way over the top, and his Japan statement is silly, but his EU statement is interesting, to say the least.



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Hmmm most points are fine and reasonably well made if you excuse the inevitable propaganda.

However ragging on companies like Rare over there productivity is not really on.

It also shows a rather poor knowledge of the industry, as Rare has never been prolific at any time.



We passed them in Europe and they don't even exist in Japan

So how is VGCHARTZ showing 360 ahead of PS3 in eurpoe, and please dont give me this shipped vs sold to customers thing.



Staude said:

it's not that ironic concidering he doesn't know about the sites rules (obviously) and doesn't care. (obviously)

 

He also sites l4d and mass effect as exclusives.

 

 

 

 

Anyways atleast this guy talks his mind without filters. He doesn't beat around the bush here. Sure he only mentions positive things but he does it in a optimistic and .. well it doesn't seem terribly arrogant way.

 

Also Destination Playstation !

Its ironic from our perspective here.

Its an arrogant statement designed simply to put pressure on third party publishers. If you can't see it, fine. But it is there.



......Wait...do folks even realize how much it would take sony8atleast matching 360 sales in us at low points* to pass 360...before the next gen???

This place is a terroist training ground for ps fanboys.

Plrase..mods..don't go all jihad on me.



Frank_kc said:

We passed them in Europe and they don't even exist in Japan

So how is VGCHARTZ showing 360 ahead of PS3 in eurpoe, and please dont give me this shipped vs sold to customers thing.

Well, although it does raise an interesting point, both Sony and MS use different methods to describe Europe. The one includes stuff that the other doesn't. Just wait until mods or staff clear this up :)