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Oblivion

Fallout 3



No



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Munkeh111 said:
Not really, it is a great game, but its advances are in story telling rather than RPGs. And Alan Wake and Heavy Rain might have it covered there....


Really?

ME has lots of choices that affect 3 games. Entirely different playthroughs. RPG's need creation of characters to. I'd hardly call Alan Wake and RPG. OR Heavy Rain. You arent designing your character and the way people react to you. It's predetermined choices. Not different choices depending on where your characters allegiance lies.



Fable, anyone? and yes, heavy Rain will newly define RPGs.



                                  

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Lodder said:
Oblivion

Fallout 3



No


To linear in choices. The main story plays out in only one way. You have to do it one way regardless of when you do it. Thats just freedom of when not how.



Kenoid said:
Fable, anyone? and yes, heavy Rain will newly define RPGs.


What? Heavy Rain has no character creation, choices that are made are linear choices. Can you be bad, and then the next person be affected because he knows your bad? Can you choose how you react to someones elses choices? Character design is a must in an RPG. So no Heavy Rain is a QTE adventure game.



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selnor said:
Kenoid said:
Fable, anyone? and yes, heavy Rain will newly define RPGs.


What? Heavy Rain has no character creation, choices that are made are linear choices. Can you be bad, and then the next person be affected because he knows your bad? Can you choose how you react to someones elses choices? Character design is a must in an RPG. So no Heavy Rain is a QTE adventure game.

Uh...no.

You have choices in those QTEs and Qtes are only in action sequences...



Are people actually reading the op, or seeing the headline and just typing no.

After seeing several Oblivion, Fable and LOL Heavy Rain. I cant help but think people aren't reading the op.

If they did they would probably understand, why all these games mentioned arent as much like original rpg's as ME1 and 2. Please read. It's a well thought out op. Not the usual drivle.

By the way I love Tabletop RPG's. Is anyone playing Dungeons and Dragons V9?



GodOfWar_3ever said:
selnor said:
Kenoid said:
Fable, anyone? and yes, heavy Rain will newly define RPGs.


What? Heavy Rain has no character creation, choices that are made are linear choices. Can you be bad, and then the next person be affected because he knows your bad? Can you choose how you react to someones elses choices? Character design is a must in an RPG. So no Heavy Rain is a QTE adventure game.

Uh...no.

You have choices in those QTEs and Qtes are only in action sequences...


If you read the op, choices aren't the only defining part of the original tabletop RPG.

And dont get offended by QTE adventure game. I'm sure Heavy Rain is a great experience. But RPG? no.



selnor said:
Munkeh111 said:
Not really, it is a great game, but its advances are in story telling rather than RPGs. And Alan Wake and Heavy Rain might have it covered there....


Really?

ME has lots of choices that affect 3 games. Entirely different playthroughs. RPG's need creation of characters to. I'd hardly call Alan Wake and RPG. OR Heavy Rain. You arent designing your character and the way people react to you. It's predetermined choices. Not different choices depending on where your characters allegiance lies.

Yeah, they're not RPGs, I agree, and they are different storytelling experiences. HR and AW you are following a story, and certainly in HR, you do get choices, but it is true that you are not really crafting a story. ME 2 you are creating your own Shepherd, but that doesn't mean it tells a story better



LOL I have 5 RPG that I have enjoyed far more than mass effect

1.fallout 3
2.Demon souls
3.Dragon Age
4.KOTOR
5.Oblivion