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GodOfWar_3ever on 05 February 2010
Kasz216 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Kasz216 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Kasz216 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Kasz216 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Kasz216 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Kasz216 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Barozi said:
It's getting good reviews and is a must have for any die hard fan of the genre.

You're just a GoW fan. Nothing more and nothing less.

I am gonna get the game, but only when its cheap...

What I'm saying is that I knew this game would not live upto its potential review wise because its copying a major franchise, and that would lead to obvious comparisions between that major franchise.

What the hell gives you the right to label me as "just a God of War fan" ?

If I had to guess i'd say your somehwat perverse joy over a game getting average review scores just so it doesn't challenge God of War.

Even if I did predict a game was going to get medicore review scores... happy really doesn't seem like the proper response... let alone so happy that a thread needs to be made.


I can't speak for him, but that's what gave me that impression.

Happy ? I am actually quite disappointed because DI could have been a big, big game...It really could have been if it were more original..

What would be your opinion if Sony released God of War 2 EX.  Which was a game roughtly the size of GOW2 which played just like GOW2 but had completly different levels and a completly different setting.

Wouldn't you consider that a big game?

Originality is overrated.  I like innovation as much as anybody... hell probably more then most people... however a good game is just a good game.  You shouldn't really bash a game for not being original unless the game and it's developers specifically state it's trying to be original OR it's a franchise that has just been beaten into the ground.

 

God of War III is supposed to be longer. AND - In terms of size, if you mean SCALE then GoW3 is much much bigger than II.

Combat is basically the same, otherwise the fans wouldn't like it would it ? In addition, you can switch weapons on the fly, and the new weapons are much more different than the previous games. Also rideable creatures is a first in the series. Magic is supposed to be differently used and there are battle on moving titans. Also the Icaras ascenntion levels are completely new. Thats all that has been revealed upto now, by release I can probably list more. 

Obviously

Unfortunately, DI is just good, or average - when it could have been AMAZING !

Have you even played GoW ? If you played GoW and play the DI demo you will realize what exactly I mean. Its kinda pathetic actually. The devs just went out there with one ambition - create a game similar to GoW.. "I mean what could possibly go wrong..GoW is awesome, if we copy it our game is bound to be awesome too." Wrong Visceral. WRONG.

I have played GOW.  Haven't played DI though.

 

You didn't really read my question though.  My point wasn't about GOW3.  My point was is another GOW2 was released.  Would it really be any worse then the previous GOW2?

I suggest you play the DI demo, you'll see what I mean.

So your saying... If Sony released a game just like GOW2 that was equal in quality you would think it was inferior to GOW2 because it had something new.  That's all i'm asking.

Since your only complaint this thread was "they didn't try anything new."

Nope. My complaint is that they shamelessly ripped off God of War's combat system. Its SO similar.

Only the game is supposed to be repetitive, has mediocre voice acting, repetetive and lacks the huge scale that God of War has.

If they were a bit original in their approach to the combat system, it would have been better.

Yes, that's my point... exactly.

Your main complaint is "It's not from Sony."

It has nothing to do with the combat system... but who UTILIZED the combat system.

 

Wrong answer...read the second line of the previous post... You're accusing me of being a fanboy..

 

No, i'm accusing you of having a misconception based on branding.  It's not a matter of being a Fanboy.

This happens to 90% of the world.  It's why consumer marketers are paid so damn much.

 

The "second line" is all stuff that can be effected by the "first line" and considering you were calling this before anyone had played the game it's fairly obvious that your conclusion came from the "first line."

I guess we can agree to disagree,

second line was based on reviews.

Either way God of War III will definitely be a better game.



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Kasz216 on 05 February 2010

The second line was based on reviews... yet you called it before the reviews?

You've also ignored the fact that the second like could be simply because the reviewers thought like you did.

I mean DI has been nothing but a deluge of bad press and ripoff calls.

Vs something like Deadspace... which wasn't and had a lot of positive press.



Kasz216 on 05 February 2010

The second line was based on reviews... yet you called it before the reviews?

You've also ignored the fact that the second like could be simply because the reviewers thought like you did.

I mean DI has been nothing but a deluge of bad press and ripoff calls.

Vs something like Deadspace... which wasn't and had a lot of positive press.



GodOfWar_3ever on 05 February 2010
Kasz216 said:
The second line was based on reviews... yet you called it before the reviews?

You've also ignored the fact that the second like could be simply because the reviewers thought like you did.

I mean DI has been nothing but a deluge of bad press and ripoff calls.

Vs something like Deadspace... which wasn't and had a lot of positive press.

"Dante’s Inferno copies God of War in every way possible, except the part that makes God of War really good: the epic scale, the fantastic build-up and original puzzles. These elements are simply lacking in Dante’s Inferno, and what remains is a brown version of the game that it was inspired by. EA could have done better with the source material."

"The works of both Dante Alighieri and David Jaffe are defiled in this shallow and puerile actioner."

"Despite its refusal to innovate, its blatant copying from the God of War rulebook, and its missed opportunities, Dante's Inferno is nonetheless a solid title. At the very least, it's an engaging prospect for Xbox loyalists who've never played a God of War game. However, with the likes of Darksiders and Bayonetta on the market (as well as God of War III in our sights), Dante's Inferno is the weakest proposition of the bunch."

I can pick some more if you want.



Kasz216 on 05 February 2010
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Kasz216 said:
The second line was based on reviews... yet you called it before the reviews?

You've also ignored the fact that the second like could be simply because the reviewers thought like you did.

I mean DI has been nothing but a deluge of bad press and ripoff calls.

Vs something like Deadspace... which wasn't and had a lot of positive press.

"Dante’s Inferno copies God of War in every way possible, except the part that makes God of War really good: the epic scale, the fantastic build-up and original puzzles. These elements are simply lacking in Dante’s Inferno, and what remains is a brown version of the game that it was inspired by. EA could have done better with the source material."

"The works of both Dante Alighieri and David Jaffe are defiled in this shallow and puerile actioner."

"Despite its refusal to innovate, its blatant copying from the God of War rulebook, and its missed opportunities, Dante's Inferno is nonetheless a solid title. At the very least, it's an engaging prospect for Xbox loyalists who've never played a God of War game. However, with the likes of Darksiders and Bayonetta on the market (as well as God of War III in our sights), Dante's Inferno is the weakest proposition of the bunch."

I can pick some more if you want.

You seem to be missing the entire context of this debate.

 

I'll leave you and this thread with a simple story and hopefully you'll finally understand.

 

Back when Margarin was first around... it's sales were HORRIBLE. Regular people, food critics... everybody HATED it.

 

The creators of margarin were about to go out of buisness... until they brought in some marketing researchers.


They changed the color with a tasteless yellow dye, and wrapped it in tinfoil.

Suddenly everybody LOVED it... it tasted deliclious, it's flavor was rich... it was a new sensation.  Margarin is still around today... it's still remarkably popular and plenty of people still love the taste.

 

Critical comments are largely irrelevent since critics... even more so then you were caught up in the same deluge of negative news and comments regarding DI well before they even received a copy in their hands.

Is DI good or isn't it?  It's largely irrelevent in relation to it's score.  It was going to get a negative score either way unless it was someting genre defining and even then there is no gurantee... when in reality all DI was trying to be was a solid game.



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AdventWolf on 05 February 2010

The gameplay is a rip from God of War but I feel the reviewers are being too harsh. The demo wasn't half bad, if you loved God of War then theres a chance you will enjoy this game.

I haven't played the full game so I can't say whether the game is worth it or not.



gamefreak4ever on 05 February 2010
Boutros said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
You guys know that DI is a copy of GoW down to the smallest things right ?

I have never seen reviewers say that "Its hard to believe this game wasn't called Dante's Infernof War" or something similar when comparing games of the same genre.

Reviewers never said Borderlands should be called - Borderout or anything....

Rock Band was still fun even though it was a huge copy of Guitar Hero.

I don't see how being a copy makes it bad.


That is so true....



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gamefreak4ever on 05 February 2010
GodOfWar_3ever said:
iLLmaticV3 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
iLLmaticV3 said:
Doesn't seem like a bad game, but doesn't look amazing either.

Thats true - Thats why I'm getting it cheap.

But thats not my point - The point is its lack of originality.

Thats what I'm saying, most games that lack originality aren't amazing, but "Good" if that.

Dante's is a special case when it comes to lack of originality...just check out 1up, and eurogamer reviews.


Can't wait till its actual release...then the gamer's will give their review....



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