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GodOfWar_3ever said:
Barozi said:
It's getting good reviews and is a must have for any die hard fan of the genre.

You're just a GoW fan. Nothing more and nothing less.

I am gonna get the game, but only when its cheap...

What I'm saying is that I knew this game would not live upto its potential review wise because its copying a major franchise, and that would lead to obvious comparisions between that major franchise.

What the hell gives you the right to label me as "just a God of War fan" ?

If I had to guess i'd say your somehwat perverse joy over a game getting average review scores just so it doesn't challenge God of War.

Even if I did predict a game was going to get medicore review scores... happy really doesn't seem like the proper response... let alone so happy that a thread needs to be made.


I can't speak for him, but that's what gave me that impression.



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Hus said:
Kasz216 said:
The point is, critical review in this case doesn't have shit to do with the quality of the game, but instead the perceived opinions of the people who are reviewing the game.

The game could be BETTER then GOW3 and it would still be reviewed worse because of it's branding issue.

Come on did you even read what you said, better then GOW.  Fact is theres no chance it be any where as good as GOW3.

OP is right.

I don't think you read what I said.

It's a matter of fact that if you take two identical products and put them in different packaging one can be considered way better then another.

In fact, you could take a wine that was better overall and one 80% of taste tests blind... but it in a worse bottle and a good 60-70% of people actually could think the inferior wine was better now in tastetests.


Put the better wine in the better bottle and it wins 90% of the time.  Point being... branding and packaging are so much more important then most people think.

This is why so many games and companies try and play the internet hype game.  A LARGE amount of the time how much you like or dislike a game could actually be based on hype or even just what kind of mood your in when you sit down to play it.



Kasz216 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Barozi said:
It's getting good reviews and is a must have for any die hard fan of the genre.

You're just a GoW fan. Nothing more and nothing less.

I am gonna get the game, but only when its cheap...

What I'm saying is that I knew this game would not live upto its potential review wise because its copying a major franchise, and that would lead to obvious comparisions between that major franchise.

What the hell gives you the right to label me as "just a God of War fan" ?

If I had to guess i'd say your somehwat perverse joy over a game getting average review scores just so it doesn't challenge God of War.

Even if I did predict a game was going to get medicore review scores... happy really doesn't seem like the proper response... let alone so happy that a thread needs to be made.


I can't speak for him, but that's what gave me that impression.

Happy ? I am actually quite disappointed because DI could have been a big, big game...It really could have been if it were more original..



So far this game is freaking awesome. Yes similar game mechanics and stolen ideas , but once you get into it, it becomes its own. It's a pretty solid game and I'm enjoying the different circles. It is worth the purchase in my view.



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GodOfWar_3ever said:
Kasz216 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Barozi said:
It's getting good reviews and is a must have for any die hard fan of the genre.

You're just a GoW fan. Nothing more and nothing less.

I am gonna get the game, but only when its cheap...

What I'm saying is that I knew this game would not live upto its potential review wise because its copying a major franchise, and that would lead to obvious comparisions between that major franchise.

What the hell gives you the right to label me as "just a God of War fan" ?

If I had to guess i'd say your somehwat perverse joy over a game getting average review scores just so it doesn't challenge God of War.

Even if I did predict a game was going to get medicore review scores... happy really doesn't seem like the proper response... let alone so happy that a thread needs to be made.


I can't speak for him, but that's what gave me that impression.

Happy ? I am actually quite disappointed because DI could have been a big, big game...It really could have been if it were more original..

What would be your opinion if Sony released God of War 2 EX.  Which was a game roughtly the size of GOW2 which played just like GOW2 but had completly different levels and a completly different setting.

Wouldn't you consider that a big game?

Originality is overrated.  I like innovation as much as anybody... hell probably more then most people... however a good game is just a good game.  You shouldn't really bash a game for not being original unless the game and it's developers specifically state it's trying to be original OR it's a franchise that has just been beaten into the ground.

 



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Kasz216 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Kasz216 said:

You don't seem to be getting it. Eurogamer wouldn't have the same opinion of "epicness" were this game called GOW3.

There is a reason why companies pay money to color margarine yellow even though it doesn't change the taste any.

See, God of War is awesome.

DI copied God of War, but didn't meet the high standards of the series.

Hence DI got burned by reviewers..


No DI got burned because it wasn't GOW despite being an exact copy. pretty much every review i've seen says something along the lines of "it copies everything from GOW yet for some reason isn't nearly as fun." You give people two identical wines, but change the bottles and they will report a dinstict difference in taste.

I expect more from you. Being a complete ripoff doesn't make it equal in quality.



Kasz216 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Kasz216 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Barozi said:
It's getting good reviews and is a must have for any die hard fan of the genre.

You're just a GoW fan. Nothing more and nothing less.

I am gonna get the game, but only when its cheap...

What I'm saying is that I knew this game would not live upto its potential review wise because its copying a major franchise, and that would lead to obvious comparisions between that major franchise.

What the hell gives you the right to label me as "just a God of War fan" ?

If I had to guess i'd say your somehwat perverse joy over a game getting average review scores just so it doesn't challenge God of War.

Even if I did predict a game was going to get medicore review scores... happy really doesn't seem like the proper response... let alone so happy that a thread needs to be made.


I can't speak for him, but that's what gave me that impression.

Happy ? I am actually quite disappointed because DI could have been a big, big game...It really could have been if it were more original..

What would be your opinion if Sony released God of War 2 EX.  Which was a game roughtly the size of GOW2 which played just like GOW2 but had completly different levels and a completly different setting.

Wouldn't you consider that a big game?

Originality is overrated.  I like innovation as much as anybody... hell probably more then most people... however a good game is just a good gameYou shouldn't really bash a game for not being original unless the game and it's developers specifically state it's trying to be original OR it's a franchise that has just been beaten into the ground.

 

God of War III is supposed to be longer. AND - In terms of size, if you mean SCALE then GoW3 is much much bigger than II.

Combat is basically the same, otherwise the fans wouldn't like it would it ? In addition, you can switch weapons on the fly, and the new weapons are much more different than the previous games. Also rideable creatures is a first in the series. Magic is supposed to be differently used and there are battle on moving titans. Also the Icaras ascenntion levels are completely new. Thats all that has been revealed upto now, by release I can probably list more. 

Obviously

Unfortunately, DI is just good, or average - when it could have been AMAZING !

Have you even played GoW ? If you played GoW and play the DI demo you will realize what exactly I mean. Its kinda pathetic actually. The devs just went out there with one ambition - create a game similar to GoW.. "I mean what could possibly go wrong..GoW is awesome, if we copy it our game is bound to be awesome too." Wrong Visceral. WRONG.



GodOfWar_3ever said:
Kasz216 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Kasz216 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Barozi said:
It's getting good reviews and is a must have for any die hard fan of the genre.

You're just a GoW fan. Nothing more and nothing less.

I am gonna get the game, but only when its cheap...

What I'm saying is that I knew this game would not live upto its potential review wise because its copying a major franchise, and that would lead to obvious comparisions between that major franchise.

What the hell gives you the right to label me as "just a God of War fan" ?

If I had to guess i'd say your somehwat perverse joy over a game getting average review scores just so it doesn't challenge God of War.

Even if I did predict a game was going to get medicore review scores... happy really doesn't seem like the proper response... let alone so happy that a thread needs to be made.


I can't speak for him, but that's what gave me that impression.

Happy ? I am actually quite disappointed because DI could have been a big, big game...It really could have been if it were more original..

What would be your opinion if Sony released God of War 2 EX.  Which was a game roughtly the size of GOW2 which played just like GOW2 but had completly different levels and a completly different setting.

Wouldn't you consider that a big game?

Originality is overrated.  I like innovation as much as anybody... hell probably more then most people... however a good game is just a good gameYou shouldn't really bash a game for not being original unless the game and it's developers specifically state it's trying to be original OR it's a franchise that has just been beaten into the ground.

 

God of War III is supposed to be longer. AND - In terms of size, if you mean SCALE then GoW3 is much much bigger than II.

Combat is basically the same, otherwise the fans wouldn't like it would it ? In addition, you can switch weapons on the fly, and the new weapons are much more different than the previous games. Also rideable creatures is a first in the series. Magic is supposed to be differently used and there are battle on moving titans. Also the Icaras ascenntion levels are completely new. Thats all that has been revealed upto now, by release I can probably list more. 

Obviously

Unfortunately, DI is just good, or average - when it could have been AMAZING !

Have you even played GoW ? If you played GoW and play the DI demo you will realize what exactly I mean. Its kinda pathetic actually. The devs just went out there with one ambition - create a game similar to GoW.. "I mean what could possibly go wrong..GoW is awesome, if we copy it our game is bound to be awesome too." Wrong Visceral. WRONG.

I have played GOW.  Haven't played DI though.

 

You didn't really read my question though.  My point wasn't about GOW3.  My point was is another GOW2 was released.  Would it really be any worse then the previous GOW2?



--OkeyDokey-- said:
Kasz216 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Kasz216 said:

You don't seem to be getting it. Eurogamer wouldn't have the same opinion of "epicness" were this game called GOW3.

There is a reason why companies pay money to color margarine yellow even though it doesn't change the taste any.

See, God of War is awesome.

DI copied God of War, but didn't meet the high standards of the series.

Hence DI got burned by reviewers..


No DI got burned because it wasn't GOW despite being an exact copy. pretty much every review i've seen says something along the lines of "it copies everything from GOW yet for some reason isn't nearly as fun." You give people two identical wines, but change the bottles and they will report a dinstict difference in taste.

I expect more from you. Being a complete ripoff doesn't make it equal in quality.

No, but that's basically the quotes that were written... and even inferior products can outshine superior ones with the right branding.

Most people would enjoy DI more if they called it GOW: Something and reskinned everyone to look like Greek characters... this is my point.

The quality of DI is irrelevant since all the negativity that was on it since it's announcement has made the game somewhat toxic to reviewers giving it a high score. 

 

Good/bad it was never going to get AAA scores due to it's branding and due to all the pre-negativity.



Kasz216 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Kasz216 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Kasz216 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Barozi said:
It's getting good reviews and is a must have for any die hard fan of the genre.

You're just a GoW fan. Nothing more and nothing less.

I am gonna get the game, but only when its cheap...

What I'm saying is that I knew this game would not live upto its potential review wise because its copying a major franchise, and that would lead to obvious comparisions between that major franchise.

What the hell gives you the right to label me as "just a God of War fan" ?

If I had to guess i'd say your somehwat perverse joy over a game getting average review scores just so it doesn't challenge God of War.

Even if I did predict a game was going to get medicore review scores... happy really doesn't seem like the proper response... let alone so happy that a thread needs to be made.


I can't speak for him, but that's what gave me that impression.

Happy ? I am actually quite disappointed because DI could have been a big, big game...It really could have been if it were more original..

What would be your opinion if Sony released God of War 2 EX.  Which was a game roughtly the size of GOW2 which played just like GOW2 but had completly different levels and a completly different setting.

Wouldn't you consider that a big game?

Originality is overrated.  I like innovation as much as anybody... hell probably more then most people... however a good game is just a good gameYou shouldn't really bash a game for not being original unless the game and it's developers specifically state it's trying to be original OR it's a franchise that has just been beaten into the ground.

 

God of War III is supposed to be longer. AND - In terms of size, if you mean SCALE then GoW3 is much much bigger than II.

Combat is basically the same, otherwise the fans wouldn't like it would it ? In addition, you can switch weapons on the fly, and the new weapons are much more different than the previous games. Also rideable creatures is a first in the series. Magic is supposed to be differently used and there are battle on moving titans. Also the Icaras ascenntion levels are completely new. Thats all that has been revealed upto now, by release I can probably list more. 

Obviously

Unfortunately, DI is just good, or average - when it could have been AMAZING !

Have you even played GoW ? If you played GoW and play the DI demo you will realize what exactly I mean. Its kinda pathetic actually. The devs just went out there with one ambition - create a game similar to GoW.. "I mean what could possibly go wrong..GoW is awesome, if we copy it our game is bound to be awesome too." Wrong Visceral. WRONG.

I have played GOW.  Haven't played DI though.

 

You didn't really read my question though.  My point wasn't about GOW3.  My point was is another GOW2 was released.  Would it really be any worse then the previous GOW2?

I suggest you play the DI demo, you'll see what I mean.