| snyps said: Sh1nn will never report anything good for Nintendo. Why? What do you get out of it? Not saying this isn't worth reporting. I just don't understand what's at stake for you, Sh1nn. Can you explain this? |
I dont have a problem. He is quicker than most Nintendo fans to report things XD Glad he is following Nintendo news!
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switch is gonna be ~500gf machine xbox one is 1.3 tf |
According to the article, its over 1tf.
I really don't know or care what thast means. DS3 runs on it. All I care about.
As long as it's more powerful than the WiiU, that's enough for me.
It ain't about power baby: power hasn't exactly prevented this gen's PS4 and X1 from being hit with disappointments.
See the decision is just odd if all this is true.
1 TF With Maxwell? They are basically trying to push more power with an older and less efficient arch on a portable? The Tegra x1 was 512Gflops and this is double that... Like I don't understand the logic behind it cause for battery life, heat and etc, Pascal would be the better choice
I will take it with a grain of salt.
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| Meelow said: Before anyone freaks out... http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=226619995&postcount=504 "I have a few immediate thoughts after reading through the article: Firstly, it's worth noting the difference between Maxwell and Pascal is almost entirely down to the manufacturing process. Maxwell was made on 28nm (and in the case of the TX1, 20nm) whereas Pascal is made on 16nm. The actual architectural difference between the two is minimal, and aside from improved color buffer compression, largely irrelevant for a device like the Switch. Despite that, the article never makes any mention of the manufacturing process. I find that extremely strange, as it's obviously the defining difference between the two sets of GPUs. In fact, the article gets the difference between the two completely the wrong way around, saying "Nintendo’s box is relatively small, and so it has to fit into the heat profile of a portable device, rather than a set-top box. That’s another reason that explains the older Maxwell technology, as opposed to the Pascal’s state-of-the-art tech." Pascal is literally a more power efficient version of Maxwell, so the incentive would be the other way around. The author says "we expect the Nintendo Switch to be more than 1 teraflop in performance", which is notably higher than even those of us who were expecting Pascal were considering (I literally posted earlier today with a 500-750 Gflop estimate). If this is a Maxwell chip, then that would mean at least 4 SMs (512 "CUDA cores") at 1GHz, as they're not going to be able to push much past that on 28/20nm. This is a much larger GPU than most people would have been expecting. I see a few different scenarios here: The Switch SoC uses Maxwell at 20nm, and simply has a much larger GPU than anticipated to account for the performance. Nintendo looked at the feature-set planned for Pascal when design started, realised that the new features were largely irrelevant, and decided that they would save time and just use a straight-forward die shrink of Maxwell to 16nm instead. That would technically be a Maxwell GPU, but would be almost completely indistinguishable from Pascal in terms of performance. The sources are wrong about Maxwell, the 1 Tflop performance, or both. Basically, if you're to take the article as being accurate, then the only worthwhile takeaway is this quote:" |
Yeah, this sounds like the article was put out on partial information without technical know how for the sake of "getting the scoop." It will be interesting to see how it plays out, but this right here points out just how unreliable these articles are when taken at word - for - word face value, even when they have sources providing some info.
I think this is very old and has been a gaf topic for about a month and a lot of them agreed this article/rumor is bunk as a lot of the specs don't add up.
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What kind of monkeys run that site? Maxwell is the thing that makes it suddenly worse than PS4? "May" not be able to run 4k now?
As for the news. There isn't really a lot of difference between these two architectures. The differences in power should be negligible.
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| spemanig said: "We’re not so sure if the Switch is weaker than the Xbox One, as the performance may be close." Seriously, though. Who was expecting this thing to be as powerful as a PS4?? |
The consensus already was that the Switch is about half as powerful as the PS4 and definitely weaker than X1. That was with the assumption of Pascal.
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