Watch video at this site:

http://nintendo3dsblog.com/lots-of-footage-from-the-3ds-version-of-sonic-all-stars-racing-transformed/

The PS3 & 360 & PS Vita only run is game at a maximum refresh rate of 30.

The Wii U runs this game at a refresh rate of somewhere in between 60 & 120 (somewhere between 30 to 60 fps per image)

And the 3DS seems runs this game as high as a refresh rate of 180 (as high as 60 fps per image)

Now YouTube only streams their 2D videos at a refresh rate of 30 and the persons 2D camera only records at no higher then 30 fps, so keep that in mind when you watch the video in that Link.

FYI YouTube streams their 3D videos at a refresh rate of 120 (60 fps per image) (source: the people at YouTube bragged about increasing the bandwidth by 4 fold to add 3D streaming as they mentioned in an interview)

So who is going to buy the 3DS version for just having a higher frame rate then the Wii U version which has a higher frame rate then the PS3/360/iOS/PS Vita versions?

(I'm curious about how much people care about such things as playing with a higher frame rate)

I dont care. This game left a sour taste in my mouth. I regret buying it at full price

At what frame rate does your PC play Sumo engine games at?

Anything more then 60 fps is a logical reason to choose PC over 3DS for frame rate reasons.

Where are you getting the information about the framerate for the 3DS version from?  The link in the OP doesn't say anything about it and the video in that link (same video that was posted here yesterday) looks like it's struggling to run 15 fps, let alone 60.

I guess we'll see when it comes out.  If it's true, then kudos I guess :P

edit: Nvm, just read your OP again.  I think we're gonna have to wait and see what the game is like when it comes out.  Perhaps youtube is the reason that video looks so bad, but still, there's plenty of footage of the other versions of this game on youtube where it doesn't look like it's chugging.

I dont regret buying it cause i loved the music and classic SEGA referances, but its definitly a game i will resell.
The horribly tuned difficulty and the lack of online play in the Xbox cause i refuse to buy gold sub dont leave much room for replayability.

Glad that the 3DS version actually has good fps contrary to the initial video seemed to show. Theres an avid crowed of kart racing fans that had their fill with Mario and would like something fresh. If only SEGA would patch that AI and difficulty though, it would be so much better.

What system did you play it on?

And what was the reason(s) that this game was awful for your experience?

I haven't played it yet, but I already pre-order the HFR 3D Version Bonus Edition of this game last year. (you got me worry now, LOL)

Well, the person who recorded it said that it doesn't matter because his or her camera has a bad frame rate for recording anything anyways.

But yeah, it's best to wait for the game to come out, but at least we can compare its graphics to the PS Vita version of the game right now, LOL.

I own the Wii U version and it suffers from some drops, I'd be surprised if it was the best version.

Yeah, Sega did say that the AI was a problem before this game was release on any system.

But Sega also said that the 3DS Version will work fine when it comes to such things as frame rate & AI.

It seems that Sega only cares about the 3DS version of this game.......maybe.

My full opinion (my thread from sega forum)

Ive have had the game since 26th and I can so so far its a love hate relationship and if it was not SEGA I would have taken this back or shelved it by now. I like this game but its so frustrating to the point of just not being fun.

1. During a couch coop session...why cant Player 1 play on the TV screen when there are less than 5 players? I don't want to look at the gamepad when I don;t have too. I want to look where everybody else looking. If there is a option for this, it as not made very clear on how to do it.

- Why cant the controls be adjusted for any control style outside of the game pad? Wii mote sucks as motion is no go for this level of intensity and the original classic controller(Wii) has acceleration mapped to ZR( the little button) would of been cool to let us to turn off motion for wii mote and customize an non game pad style. Again, if there is an option for this the game does not make it clear on how to do it.



2. The AI is punishing..so punishing that I feel sorrow for any kid under the age of 13 who happen to get this for Xmas. They will never unlock everything.

- This game is like handicap match. 9 vs 1. At the start of Amigo's during the Red carpet drift. I was targeted by every opponent who managed to pick up a weapon. It seems no matter hat my position I will always be the target. I have seen the AI in 2nd place target me in 3rd place before targeting the 1st place opponent.

- Rubberband physics are aggressive. The characters the AI deems to be hardest will be unshakable. At start of the match you can see who the hardest characters will be during countdown to start. Smartest at the front to stupidest in the back. Here's how the adament the computer is about the placement. I was doing Super Monkey ball track, third lap. Tails was 1st and I was 2nd. During the drift after the statue part I was able to bump tails off the tack putting him at like 7th 8th or 9th place. I thought I had that race won as he was the smartest AI bu waaaay in the back and I assumed he would have trouble passing up everybody... I guess I assumed other players would ATTACK HIM but what was I thinking. Guys.. I dont know how Tails did it but he went from 9th place to at SUPER SPEED MAX TO BLAAAAAAAAAZE RIGHT PASS ME AS IM ABOUT TO FINISH Im Sonic with Super Speed Mod!!! how did tails get up there so quickly and make Sonic look like hes chump at the same time??? I think the computer just warped Tails up.

- Why does it seem like the AI is not limited by their stats? U la la has a one in speed but can keep distance from Sonic??? what???

- This would be less frustrating if the game did not start this way but gradually increased to this difficulty Each cup could have represented a different skill level to help get people in gear for crazy carp like tails



3. Items....suck balls at stopping the AI advance. Twister does nothing, Frozen for a second to being on your butt in another. Nothing stops the AI..Nothing buuuuut...

- They your up when shoot a twister or freeze you! Have you been hit with every weapon at one time? I have!!

- Btw, why are the items so random? Why could'nt they be based on the IP's represented in the game? It would not be hard.

- Why are there so few of them? I swear all I get is that snowball


4. The characterization in this game is off. Metal Sonic Clapping?

- The Human characters are all off model wise. They just look weird

- Alex Kidd has glitch to where he just gets stuck the whole match every time.