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Forums - Sony Discussion - Serious challenges Move will have to overcome to sell > 10M units.

mai said:

I doubt Sony intend to sell >10M units. "Move" is a defensive move, rather than offensive. They don't want and just won't convince Wii owners to buy a PS3, but they do expect to convince PS3 owners NOT to buy a Wii.

blu ray player + 3d + Wii HD + camera = PS3 move, large unexploited audience there. It could still be very or maybe more sucessful in 2-3 years when more people will switch to HD and blu ray. PS3 will becomes the obvious choice for movie watcher and casual gamer family.



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- Atleast 10 Million with 12 months. Its got to secure enough market share in order to motivate Wii/Ps3 conversions. Don't forget the PS3 version costs alot more to produce.

- @kowenicki - That fanbase didn't buy PSP's. That fanbase didn't buy enough copies of high profile exclusives either.



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FreeTalkLive said:

10 million wouldn't be that good. Sony is likely projecting 15-25 million. Otherwise, what's the point?  Nintendo may end up moving 30-50 million Wii Motion Plus units.

There's likely already 30m+ Motion Plus units out there... although many Wii owners have multiple units too, so the installed base isn't necessarily 30m+.

Balance Board is probably past 30m too.



Twistedpixel said:
binary solo said:
You forgot the main reason it'll struggle to make 10 million: not being a launch peripheral.

Still the we all know what hapened the last time people were predicting a Sony product would fail to achieve 10 million in sales.

The level of commitment Sony has to this product and its strategic importance to them will be reflected in the amount of bundling it gets. I'll be watching with interest.

Good points, but I was wondering were you talking about the PS3 or PS3 software? Many people did predict the Go! would fail to move much and its hard to keep track of which failed prediction is which!

PSPGo doesn't exist, it's a myth.



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binary solo said:
Twistedpixel said:
binary solo said:
You forgot the main reason it'll struggle to make 10 million: not being a launch peripheral.

Still the we all know what hapened the last time people were predicting a Sony product would fail to achieve 10 million in sales.

The level of commitment Sony has to this product and its strategic importance to them will be reflected in the amount of bundling it gets. I'll be watching with interest.

Good points, but I was wondering were you talking about the PS3 or PS3 software? Many people did predict the Go! would fail to move much and its hard to keep track of which failed prediction is which!

PSPGo doesn't exist, it's a myth.

So do the chickens have large talons?



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Twistedpixel said:
binary solo said:
Twistedpixel said:
binary solo said:
You forgot the main reason it'll struggle to make 10 million: not being a launch peripheral.

Still the we all know what hapened the last time people were predicting a Sony product would fail to achieve 10 million in sales.

The level of commitment Sony has to this product and its strategic importance to them will be reflected in the amount of bundling it gets. I'll be watching with interest.

Good points, but I was wondering were you talking about the PS3 or PS3 software? Many people did predict the Go! would fail to move much and its hard to keep track of which failed prediction is which!

PSPGo doesn't exist, it's a myth.

So do the chickens have large talons?

No, but they do have large breasts.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

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I disagree with 1 and 2.

3. I agree with... though it has less to do with the number of wands... as it does, there are just so many more Wiis out there, and everybody already knows about it.  So the general response will be "this is like one of those Wiis."

4. I do agree that it's going to take some serious exclusives that can match the Wii lineup if they plan for the Move to be anything more then a device that sells only to PS3 owners that don't already own Wiis rather then something that sells systems.

Still as it is, it could cut down on multiconsole ownership, which thanks to the wii appears to be at an all time high.



Twistedpixel said:
Deviation59 said:
Ten million? Why does it have to sell ten million?

Actually I was thinking more like 20M would be ideal, 10M is the minimum for continued support in my mind anyway. Its a target market which will at least ensure some exclusive support for the Move with interesting game concepts.


if it can't do Dreamcast numbers it wont do anythign at all