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kowenicki said:
completely different... or cant you see that? one is a requirement, one is an optional thing to make things nicer.

I see the difference. I just mean the only reason you would install, is to take advantage of all the reasons PS3 games do it. So what your saying is bravo to MS for making it an option (and I agree).

What I am saying, is everyone who has ever bitched about installs, should never exercise there right to use it, or they are a hypocrite (as the only reason they would, would be to take advantages the PS3 games offer, that they disagree with)