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You don't really say anything completely off kilter, but you are really exaggerating some things. You're talking about poor of a value the 360/hard drives are, without talking about the PS3. It's not a great value either -- it doesn't even come HD ready out of the box. You still have to buy a $4 HDMI or some kind of component cable because Sony is saving $1 on each PS3 by not including them.