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mrstickball I am not in a position as to see the consoles themselves and therefore cannot check what type they are. All I see are the boxes in the office and by seeing this it makes me think twice about buying one. They all may be older models that are susceptible to RROD but if you had a choice between product A(PS3 or Wii) with basically 0% problems and product B with returns due to technical problems which one would you choose. If you reread my post I did say it has the best games and I am considering buying one. But I am reluctant about doing it.