Politics and moderation

[CosmicSex]

curl-6 said:

CosmicSex said:

That's not what i observe.  What I have noticed is that people demand to be protected when they feel they are under attack.  And that happens when the implication is not obvious.  The rules exist for that reason.  The forum isnt supposed to feel like a place where people have to implicitly know what isn't stated and users aren't expected to just take it on the chin so that prejudices can be dispensed at the expense of other members.  I have zero expectations or desire for people to agree on everything... but implying that feeling attacked is the same thing as forcing a belief doesn't pass the non bias test.  It is not difficult to express a different opinion in a manner that is not abrasive.  

Also, are you saying that someone has requested a ban for someone else for simply saying 'capitalism is better than communism'?  I feel like you are making false equivalencies to actaul legit complaints.  If this really happened then of course its silly.  I once read a comment on here years ago from some expressing that gay people should be killed.  That's what im talking about.  Implicit IMO my ass lol.  

Give me an example of a real life frivolous ban request so I know where you are coming from.  We may be on the same page and I just don't realize it.

Oh I agree that people unfortunately are often abrasive or aggressive in their opinions, all I meant was that stating an contrary opinion in itself isn't inherently an attack and shouldn't automatically be treated as such. I think that's where most problems arise, when people take a difference of opinion as a personal attack.

And no, that was just a random example, not an actual case. And yeah obviously saying gay people (or any people really) should be killed is way beyond the pale, absolutely unacceptable, and should be met with a ban.

Frustratingly I actually don't think I can give specific examples cos I'd risk being moderated myself for repeating things that got people banned, and for backseat moderation. Also, I feel like I kinda shouldn't call out the specific cases and thereby specific people anyway cos I talked to them in private so I think it's better if I let them identify themselves and make their case instead of me saying "oh hey, it was Fred".

I feel like I didn't explain myself well in the prior post, my bad, but what I meant was that stating a belief or acting in accordance with one's beliefs should not be banworthy, unless it's something like directly calling for people to be killed or the like.

Oh no worries and I completely understand where you are coming from.