Politics and moderation

[the-pi-guy]

JuliusHackebeil said:

I am not engaged enough to be able to fully judge the bans and moderations as fair or unfair. And I never read the rules. Just as a disclaimer. Here is what I think anyways.

It is always wrong to censor people on an anonymous forum. Sure, you cannot scream fire in a theatre or incite violence. But on here? I cannot think of an example where I would be for censoring anybody, even if the content of the post hurts somebodys feelings. That is actually a huge part of how we grow as people, to have our feelings hurt and still be able to function. A cushy bubble for your brain is the antithesis of resilience.

With no line whatsoever? 
Do you think I should be allowed to threaten you, call you stupid or whatever else, just because we're online? 

We do not actually grow as people by being bullied. 

JuliusHackebeil said:

Also, someone posted these as forum rules: "Racist, sexist, hateful, toxic, or otherwise demeaning comments will not be tolerated." What if (just as an example) someone is for abortion and comments that, but another person thinks this is "hateful, toxic and demeaning" (to unborn children and anybody who regrets having had an abortion)? What exactly counts as "toxic" and "demeaning"?
-These rules are completely vague and their application seems arbitrary.

There is a big difference between your abortion example and these other examples.

It is whether you are targeting someone.

Saying "I think abortion is murder" is different from saying "people who have abortions are murderous POS".

There's a difference between expressing your opinion on something and attacking people - even if technically one of those statements can logically come from the other. You're still not attacking people by expressing the opinion.  

JuliusHackebeil said:

I'll close with this thought: People demanding tolerance and inclusivity are seldom tolerant and inclusive themselves. "Like, why cant you just not be hateful, oh my god? It is not that difficult, just shut up if you know your opinion is not to our liking."

I also think this is missing the point. Tolerance is about accepting people, not their actions. I can be happy to have someone in my house and be upset that they're peeing in my hallway. 

I can tolerate any kind of people in my kids' classes, but I can't tolerate someone bullying them and stealing their lunch money.