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BraLoD said:
Kyuu said:

Most publishers are pleased about Sony's decision (some will pretend that they aren't). It sucks for the consumer but it's understandable from a business perspective, retailers get a large cut on every physical sale (twice the cut that the platform holder gets). A digital dominated future was inevitable, Sony ditching physical is just accelerating that.

True physical options will disappear soon. GKC is preferable to what Sony is doing and makes perfect sense for Nintendo, but it isn't true physical either, and Nintendo didn't prevent Call of Duty from being a code in a box...

It's a shame SquareEnix chose against including the full game here, but Sony is the main villain and enablers. And again we don't know what all these disruptions in the disc supply chain mean to disc prices. Sony repurposing their largest disc plant may have already caused an increase in BD prices in some sectors, and they're probably not the only manufacturers that are repurposing, closing, or downsizing their factories.

Nevertheless SE should have included the full game at least with the collectors edition, even if it required 3 discs. If pricing is a problem, then make it $20 more expensive. That way they would make as much money from physical as digital per sale.

Sony is the vilain for themselves, and after 2028.

Microsoft has been doing this missing data from disc thing for years now, way before what Sony has announced 2 months ago disrupting anything worldwide.

Square Enix is to blame here, and its fans are enablers, even as they were, most definitely, haters when it was coming from Sony 2 months ago, as the OP has been updating the thread, things are getting sold out quickly.

I saw the thread on ResetEra getting down very quickly too, with a lot of posts saying they will buy it regardless. The thread when Sony announced it was one of the biggest things I've ever seen, together with the reaction on their blog and social media, and still all over anything they do, like the State of Play. But let's just shrug when its Square Enix because come on, it's Final Fantasy 7 guys!

I saw Maximiliam Dood, a very nice guy that has gone digital on PC for years now, get so sad and blame Sony for doing what it is doing, but now that's Square Enix doing it with the game he loves, from which he personally received the director for an interview in his house after getting a call live the moment the game was announced, react in a completely difference manner, just being unhappy and then going "oh well", and ordering the most expensive overseas version of it and moving to full hype mode on his channel immediatly.

His video about Sony even as a doom evocating thumbnail, his latest video about FF7 is 100% hype (which is obviously fine to be hyper about). He has the contact of the guy, he interviewed him once, I would immediatly try to get him for an interview, even if he is in Japan we have the internet, to explain himself now too, but nah, things can only happen when its to promote stuff, nobody confronts shit anymore, can't risk the corpo being unhappy now, can we?

Square Enix is to blame and Square Enix alone.

Like Sony, Square Enix is greedy. And they are SO greedy they couldn't even wait to blame Sony for it and save face because they knew their enabler fans.

It's not the same thing. What Sony is doing is a million times worse, because it forces ALL publishers to ditch physical on Playstation... FF7 Revelation is just one game...

SE is getting some backlash too, but obviously it isn't as bad as Sony's and it shouldn't be.

Sony as the co-creator of Bluray choosing to kill discs will have a significant impact on physical media even outside gaming. The effect of FF7 Revelation going digital or "fake physical" compared to that is like a drop in an ocean.

It's not that I think Sony is "more evil" than the next company. But they're just in a position where their decisions can have a great impact on shaping the industry. They were rightly praised endlessly for keeping physical and trading alive in the events leading to PS4's launch. Now they're rightly being demonized for choosing to end physical abruptly.

Square's little choice here has little bearing on industry trends. It's still messed up and you have the right to complain about it and many SE fans are doing just that, but it's not even remotely comparable to Sony killing discs. And funny you call SquareEnix fans enablers! Bro we're some of the most divided and hard to please motherfuckers in gaming. FF7 Rebirth, one of the best modern RPGs, constantly gets shat on by many of the classics' fans, and it sold like shit too relative to its brand and quality. The jury is out on how Revelation's approach will affect sales but many fans ARE actively complaining about it. 

Last edited by Kyuu - 2 days ago