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TalonMan said:
MontanaHatchet said:

I hear this explanation all the time. If you watch the fight scene, they're fighting pretty equally until Mace kicks Palpatine in the face, disarming him and sending him helplessly against the wall. Besides, how was Palpatine supposed to know that Anakin was coming anyways? Hell, Count Dooku couldn't even sense the presence of Obi-Wan and Anakin nearby, who were watching him. I'd imagine that sensing the presence of another would require extreme concentration, and given how much effort he was putting forward into killing Mace, it seems unlikely he knew Anakin was coming. Besides, if he was really trying to motivate Anakin to join the Dark Side, why did he attempt to kill Mace with force lightning? Palpatine knew that Anakin needed him and that he could do whatever he wanted.

Mise: I was talking about Episode V and not before the suit. As for betraying Palpatine, it was to save his son (because he freed himself from the hold of the Dark Side) and not to overthrow him (Vader knew he was going to die).

 

 

You're kidding - how was Palpatine supposed to know that Anakin was coming?!?!? Shit, the guy plotted this entire course from the moment he entered the senate. How did he know that the Princess would be stupid enough to throw the current government into anarchy and allow him to step in and take it over? You don't think he set that whole thing up in the opening of the Sith so that Anakin could kill Dooku???? THE GUY IS PALPATINE, FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!! He's pretty much a super-duty fortune teller (of course, a fortune teller of EVIL!!).

Of COURSE he knew Anakin was coming - and he knew that the final piece to complete Anakin's journey would be to help kill a fellow Jedi...

 

How would he have plotted everything from the moment he entered the senate? Hell, if it were up to him, Anakin would have been killed by Dooku, or...well, I don't know...THE SEPARATIST ARMY?!! Obviously he planned some things because he was a master of manipulation, but there were so many things weighing against Anakin that easily could have killed him. Hell, Palpatine could have told his apprentices and the Separatists to take special care to not kill Anakin, but they came close to doing it several times.

Really, the actions seem a bit contradicting in the film, so I think he works on impulse a good bit of the time. If he really foresaw everything, why would he have tried to kill Amidala who later gave him dictatorial powers?

Quigontcb: Holy shit, I'll try to read that but I'm still frightened.