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KratosLives said:
Kyuu said:

I mean that's subjective, but PS4 sold more than twice as much software as PS3. It's the only console to have surpassed 2 billion (without factoring in f2p and PS+ which are even bigger today than traditional games).

If you're going to argue that western games were better during PS3 days as some sort of undeniable truth (using metrics like critical reception), then the same can easily be said about Japanese games favoring PS4 and to a greater extent.

Console western gaming peaked in the PS3 era from my experience, but as a Japanese game fan it's just not enough to put it ahead of PS4 overall. To say nothing of visuals and performance...

SvennoJ said:

Yeah it's quite fast now when using it for CD/DVD/Blu-Ray/stored media. Accessing the pop up UI from in a game or the store was terrible.

Was it WiiU with the half hour+ first time on patch? Was the worst unboxing experience.

I never experienced the Wii lineage! But if the Wii U really was slower than in-game/online PS3 as some are implying, then I'm semi glad to have never experienced it. And as a sucker for small controllers (Dualshock 1-3), just looking at that goddamned gamepad gives me anxiety 🥶 

I need to learn how to edit quote. Are you a fan at all on western games or just Japanese games?  If you are both equally,  you would come in agreement with me on ps3 getting the edge overall. 

For some people yeah, it depends on what games theyre into. Are we talking overall number of quality games, are we factoring the impact of genre defining games that started on a particular system, or both?

We can start listing japanese released titles on ps3/ps4, and western and start comparing and making cases, even though that would take forever lol.

I generally prefer Japanese games, but PS3 was the exception where I enjoyed western games a little more (out of the limited pool of games that I played). But for my taste and based on my limited experience and the things that I hear from the community, I get the sense that the quality of western AAA games declined in the PS4 generation, whereas Japanese games recovered. Overall I liked PS4 a lot more.

There are metrics that put PS3 ahead, and other metrics that give PS4 the win. It's okay to like one more than the other. Maybe I misunderstood one of your comments, but it sounded like you were downplaying PS4's Japanese games advantage (in quality and quantity) and overestimating PS3's "objective" advantages.

Metacritic gives PS3 the win in "90+" quantities, but critical reception doesn't always align with the consensus. PS5 is destined to beat both and yet many understandably consider it the worst of the three.