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CosmicSex 12 hours ago
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BraLoD said:
CosmicSex said:

Thats not how it works though:

1. When you buy a game for PSN you get 14 days to request a refund if you don't download it.

2. Purchasing a game on PSN will entitle your console to a 30 day temp license that requires check in.   After checkin (see step 3) you console will automatically convert the temp license to a forever license after 14 days (the refund peroid).  

3. BUT... Check in happens a the point of download.  So all games that you download DO NOT actually require any further checkin. Even if you are not connected your temp license becomes a permanent license after 14 days.  Period. 

4. This means that there are only two ways to get you console to request a checkin for digital games:  A) remove your console CMOS which purges licesnses stored on it or B) Find 'some way' (keep in mind this store was broke by Mod Wars) to get a digital game on your system that skips PSN.

The main point is that any game you download from PSN does not ever require checkin.  Download is checkin which is why they say you can't get a refund if you downlaod a game.  Obviously though keep in mind they have the power to refund after that period.  

This was done because modders were stealing games because it used to be that when you bought a game your system would download the permanent license. So what they would do is purchase a game, extract the permanent license from their modded console and then request a refund within 14 days without downloading the game.  This means someone could be playing your game without paying you for it which is called pirating or stealing.  So Sony tied the act of downloading a game to the action of getting a permanent license and thus using downloading to void refunds. 

@XL-klaudkil

You are right there are no check-in.  Not just becuase of my long-winded explination but also because PS3 should have the old system meaing that when you made a purchase your console automatically got the permanent license. 

Either the part aimed on me is right or the part aimed at the other part is right. It literally has checks, even if the download is a trigger for it to transtition the license status and download the permanent one, which I actually didn't know. I also commented on a following post about the refund the game and keep the license situation too.

But as you said yourself, it'll check for that license after 30 days if it was never downloaded too, so that's a check, and that we have evidence posted about. And it was not like how that worked before this year.

Thanks for clarifying the part of playing download/playing the game actually granting the permanent license before the 14 days period, I remember to have read otherwise when the internet discovered it but it could be wrong info indeed, as I never tested it myself.

Oh no worries.  Its incredible complicated and convoluted to even explain when you do get it.  The old method would just send your console the permanent license when you purchased the game.   And the new method has a side effect that popping the CMOS triggers a check.  I support this though because its not intrusive, its not every 30 days and developers need protection too just like we do as consumers.  Its about finding the balance.  How bout you?  Do you think Sony should be allowed to verify purchases?  Oh do you have a different take?