Gamers want piracy and gamers don't want piracy

[Tober]

Frogger said:

Tober said:

If Pirating is OK, then everyone should do it right? But if everyone Pirates, who's going to buy games? No one? Then no games are going to be made.

Pirates know this. They hope there are paying gamers out there, so games keep being made for them to Pirate.
Essentially Pirates leach off those that do pay.

Yes, if piracy is okay, then it's okay if everyone does it. If everyone pirates, no one buys games.

It does not follow that if no one buys games though, that no one will make games. That assumes the false premise that games can only be made if people buy them, but that's not true. Fan games exist, people make games for free, and patronage models exist where people commission art. What piracy destroys is the reproduction market. What it doesn't touch is the first production market. Kickstarter and patreon proves this. If a game people want won't get made unless the person making the came makes X amount of money, and there is demand for X amount of money for that game to merely exist, then that supply of 1 meets the demand of Z and the game gets made.

Tober: Ok it will kill only 99.9% of the gaming industry then. Not as bad as I thought.

rapsuperstar31 said:

I think if someone is religious, the fear of "thou shall not steal" would be a deterrent. Sure they could hide behind a vpn, but they can't hide anything from St Peter.

Piracy isn't theft, though: it's copying. For something to be theft, one person loses something and the other person gains something. With piracy, no one loses anything and the other person gains something.

Tober: We wouldn't call it Pirating if it wasn't thieving.

Imagine you write a book. It takes you 5 years of your life. You find a publisher that agrees to print 10K copies and it'll make it to the book store priced $20. The publisher promises that if the book is a success, then more printruns will be made.

Then I come in buy one copy and it take it to my copying machine. I'll print a million copies and sell them for $2. I make loads of money and can claim you haven't lost anything, so its not stealing. 

Then your publisher will say there will not be another print run, because my copies have satisfied all the demand already.

Copy rights exist for a reason. Because yes you'd loose something if someone pirates it.