bouzane said:
Kasz216 said:
bouzane said:
Timmah! said:
bouzane said:
I love it how average Joe's argue about global warming as if they are informed on the topic. Almost the entire scientific community is united in its opinion that humankind is contributing to global warming and that we need to do something about it. It's strange that despite the backing of the world's greatest minds some people think global warming is merely a theory and that their opinion is somehow valid. |
Wow, you seem really informed. You obviously don't even know what a theory is. There are plenty of brilliant minds on BOTH sides of the debate. You offered absolutely no intelligent addition to this discussion with that post.
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Sorry but people can not have informed opinions on such things as climate change. We do not have the thousands of pages of data available to us that the scientific community does and reading the odd article online or watching a story on TV about climate change will never constitute being informed. Regardless, the scientific community seems to be almost unanimous in its belief that humankind is changing the planet's climate and the small amount of remaining opposition to the theory seems to be disappearing. If this were not the case then the UN would not be presented with documents with an increasingly clear message that we are the source of the problem. The data provided against the theory of human driven climate change is typically not peer reviewed making it invalid as scientific research and yet it helps to fuel debate despite being nothing more then conjecture. For your comment that I do not even know what the theory of global warming/climate change is, that was ignorant on your part. My opinion that Internet debate is futile and that the average person's opinion is worthless compared to that of this world's scientists does not mean that I have no understanding of the theory.
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Don't you find that odd? That there is no proof given and instad it's a "Take our word for it" arguement? The truth is there are major holes in every published paper on global warming.
Someone can eaisly find all the info they need to prove gravity is real.
Also it's not a conesensus many scientists disagree... or want to disagree that it's man-made yet if they do they'll lose their jobs and funding.
If it was a a definite fact it would be easy to explain away the two questions i posed.
I know exactly why they think global warming is the way it is... I've read the reports. It's a correlation issue. That's it.
Anyone who's taken a research class will tell you correlation vs causation doesn't work in small enviroments... when taking it as a reason for the world... that's retarded.
It's really stupid when you take into account it isn't even a direct 1 to 1 correlation and a loose (pollution and tempeture are both going up) correlation, despite pollution going up exponentially and tempeture going up steadily.
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Good point. I guess skepticism is still healthy, even when dealing with a widely supported theory.
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Because intellegent people need to be proven something rather then take someone elses word with no proof.
It's simple. Explain why global warming is man made when less then .5% of Co2 in the air is Man-made.
Explain why pollution has risen exponentially yet global warming has occured at a steady pase.
You can't, not because the data is hidden. (Which it shouldn't be.)
It's because it doesn't exist. The climate models used to prove global warming are so flawed anyone who looks can see.
The problem is "The common joe" is by large too stupid to look and to easy to take peoples word for stuff insted of actually use the brain they were given.
They would rather read the conclusion of a scientific article... or even worse... the media article on a conclusion then read through the methodology section. Most probably don't know what a methodology sectiion is!
To call people uninformed when you haven't done any actual research on the subject is highly laughable. The info that your talking about is by and large out there. You just have to look for it... and read through it because it's LONG because that's what scientific articles are.
Even the UN documents on climate change your talking about... if you'd do the research you'd note that a number of scintists quit and refused to have their names on the documents because "A few extremists were misrepresenting and overstating the possible human effects on global warming in the conclusion."
The problem is that Climate change science has nothing to do with science and everything to do with poltics. Like a number of sciences. Just like when they have "overwhelming" scintific support showing things like videogames make kids kill people.
