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HoloDust said:

JEMC said:

While I agree with the message, there are other things that add costs to the Steam Machine, like a custom motherboard, power supply and massive heatsink.

Also, I don't think Valve will get the same bulk discount as other AIBs because they won't be ordering as many parts oas others.

However you look at it, it's a piss poor value when you can build PS5Pro equivalent (with smaller storage than PS5Pro though) for less than GabeCube price.

I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying that there are other factors other than GPU/GPU/RAM to consider as contributors to the high price of the system.

And also yeah, being slower than a base PS5 while being a fair bit more expensive than a PS5 Pro is ridiculous.

The Steam Machine 2 basically has landed in no man's land. It's too expensive and underpowered to rival consoles and it's the same but also too closed (you can't upgrade the CPU nor GPU) to attrract PC gamers. It could hardly be in a worse position.

Zippy6 said:

The choice of GPU is really killer here. I feel like the GPU being based on a 9060 XT 8gb wouldn't add a huge amount to the production cost.

Ironically putting more money into the GPU and increasing the price of the machine would have made it seem less overpriced. 10% more money for ~40% more GPU power.

A $1149 9060 XT 8gb machine would have gone over better than a $1049 RX7600 8gb machine.

8gb of vram is still a huge problem but at least then it would be comfortably beating the PS5 in comparisons and not have this double the price worse performance hanging over it.

Hardware Unboxed made a video and used GamersNexus results to make tables comparing performance of the Steam Machine 2 with other GPUs, and the 9060XT offers around 60% more pwerformance. And that's the 8GB model that no one recomends. So yeah, if Valve had gone with a 9060XT and charged $150 or even $200 more, people would be far more into it.

But it is what it is.

Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Grand Theft Auto VI starts at $79.99, Ultimate Edition costs $99.99

https://videocardz.com/newz/grand-theft-auto-vi-starts-at-79-99-ultimate-edition-costs-99-99

No disk in the physical versions is a pretty huge cuck

It's a dick move, but that has become a common practice from many publishers.

At least the base game is not $100 like some expected.

Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Valve SteamOS image now supports AMD discrete Radeon GPUs for custom Steam Machine builds

https://videocardz.com/newz/valve-steamos-image-now-supports-amd-discrete-radeon-gpus-for-custom-steam-machine-builds

Valve Says Steam Deck 2 Is Getting Closer, but Still Not Ready Yet

https://www.ign.com/articles/valve-says-steam-deck-2-is-getting-closer-but-still-not-ready-yet

For many people, building their own Steam Machine will likely be a better option than buying Valve's machine. The major downsides I can think of will be the bigger size of the device, the CEC aspect that, francky speaking, many won't care about, and the fact that you'll have to configurate it yourself.

As for the Steam Deck 2, they should wait until the AI bubble bursts or deflates a little before launching it. Valve can certainly make one that comes with a noticeable perfrmance jump, but the cost right now would be too high.

Better focus on the Frame.