TalonMan said:
MontanaHatchet said:
I hear this explanation all the time. If you watch the fight scene, they're fighting pretty equally until Mace kicks Palpatine in the face, disarming him and sending him helplessly against the wall. Besides, how was Palpatine supposed to know that Anakin was coming anyways? Hell, Count Dooku couldn't even sense the presence of Obi-Wan and Anakin nearby, who were watching him. I'd imagine that sensing the presence of another would require extreme concentration, and given how much effort he was putting forward into killing Mace, it seems unlikely he knew Anakin was coming. Besides, if he was really trying to motivate Anakin to join the Dark Side, why did he attempt to kill Mace with force lightning? Palpatine knew that Anakin needed him and that he could do whatever he wanted.
Mise: I was talking about Episode V and not before the suit. As for betraying Palpatine, it was to save his son (because he freed himself from the hold of the Dark Side) and not to overthrow him (Vader knew he was going to die).
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You're kidding - how was Palpatine supposed to know that Anakin was coming?!?!? Shit, the guy plotted this entire course from the moment he entered the senate. How did he know that the Princess would be stupid enough to throw the current government into anarchy and allow him to step in and take it over? You don't think he set that whole thing up in the opening of the Sith so that Anakin could kill Dooku???? THE GUY IS PALPATINE, FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!! He's pretty much a super-duty fortune teller (of course, a fortune teller of EVIL!!).
Of COURSE he knew Anakin was coming - and he knew that the final piece to complete Anakin's journey would be to help kill a fellow Jedi...
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he kows things but not everything, mace would have won if he had only struck swiftly and young skywalker showing up was a fluke....and proof that he dosnt know everything, he was defeated, other wise he would have known about luke and would have hunted him down
