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Norion said:
sc94597 said:

"Someone once said it was easier to imagine the end of the world than to imagine the end of capitalism" - Frederic Jameson

The sooner the mainstream left and center-left abandons insitutional conservativism the better off we'll be in my opinion. 

This isn't to say we shouldn't conserve some things, but the left and center-left need to regain an imagination. 

So far it only seems like the far-left can imagine a new world, and most of that is just regurgitating 19th century Marxism at this point, which Marx wouldn't have wanted or Leninism in the case of the ML's, which also was largely insitutuonally conservative.

I don't really lean left but it is wild to me that technology that has massive potential to shift the world away from capitalism and towards something better thanks to post-scarcity being reached is being developed right now and the typical response from the left is to downplay it which is getting more and more ridiculous every week at this point and/or outright oppose it and want it banned/destroyed instead of trying to steer the technology in a direction they'd prefer. That could go down as one of the biggest political blunders of all time if it keeps up.

I consider myself to be on the far-left, and I'm simultaneously baffled like you on this, but also not very surprised that the modern so-called left can't imagine a post-capitalist world. Something broke when the social-liberal (keynesian) and democratic socialist coalition didn't bring about socialism in the post-war era. Mainstream leftists stopped imagining a better world, and basically regressed into a conservative movement trying to preserve the gains won during that era and attempting to use the same socio-political technologies developed during that era. That is why the right has been winning pretty much everywhere on political-economy (not culture) since the 1970's - 1980's (depending on the country.) 

You see it in this thread. People imagine somehow the capitalist-controlled state will ban a wide-set of technologies (something that has never really been done in history) called "AI" but can't imagine the working class displacing said capitalist state. You see it in the workerist mindset of the posters, where a post-wage labor political-economy can't be imagined or is considered a bad thing because "people need routines." 

There is a reason why r/anti-work started as a post-leftist space and not a leftist one (although it has been captured by self-identified "leftists", and isn't about anti-work anymore.) 

Like, you have people unironically defending intellectual property "rights" and calling themselves leftists in the last half-decade.