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Chrkeller said:
curl-6 said:

Speaking of healthcare, I fucking love having universal healthcare; I might well be dead without it, as when I got cancer in 2020 all my treatment was paid for my medicare.

I am not a fan personally.  The US system isn't as expensive as people make it out to be.  It is founded in a shared risk system, similar to Universal.  The difference is Universal is paid via taxes, while employment pays for the US's shared risk plan.  The max out of pocket, on average, is 4-5k.  Nobody in the US is paying hundreds of thousands, that is a BS myth (not directed at you) that the media has created.  The other point is, when I lived in Europe with Universal, waiting times for a specialist was 6 to 9 months.  In the US, yeah it costs me 4k, but I could see someone in a week.  

Meh. When I was on the health insurance plan with my mother's workplace the yearly deductible was $10,000 15 years ago. Which is a far more massive tax than the health insurance tax from universal in many countries. Of course I am not unhealthy so I actually paid $0, but for the more prone to health issues, over 10 years that would be $100,000.