sc94597 said:
Kyuu said:
2027/2028 upper-mid tier PC's >>>> current low-mid tier PC's. PS6 will probably trade blows with a 5080 and beat it overall outside rasterization. When I hear "Lower-Mid tier PC" I think Series S to PS5. Not PS6 lol. And I think your take is too optimistic. PC GPU prices will likely skyrocket by 2028. I also think Sony might launch an entry level PS6 (more comparable to PS5) as a cheap "PS6 Handheld" variant, but without the battery or screen (like the Vita TV). So their entry point will be a lot lower than $800, but of course with a fraction of the capability. PC is definitely a threat to Sony in the long run. But it's not going to kill the brand too soon (may not even be enough to stop Playstafion's generational revenue + profit growth) and I'm pretty sure the RAM situation will affect PC hardware sales a lot more than Playstation until RAM prices go down. The power per dollar difference between PS5DE (at launch) and PC is probably never going to be repeated (PS5's only major flaw was a lack of ML based upscaling). But Sony couldn't capitalize on it (PS5DE was hardly available for two years), and the console's price kept increasing. Pretty sure I heard PC beat PS4 and Xbox One in power per dollar at some point in the generation, so PS5 was overall a win for consoles in this respect. |
Yeah I don't think the PS6 is going to be equivalent to current low-mid tier. Who was saying that?
By the time the PS6 releases (probably end of 2027) the 5080 will be old news. By then it will be trading blows with an RTX 6060ti/RTX6070 and AMD's RDNA 5 PC offerings. They're probably going to out-class the 5080 in terms of feature-specific performance too (albeit not rasterization.) I think right now ram prices are the highest they are going to be in the next five years. Mostly because the big AI companies are already working on optimizations, and scaling by parameters/data has slowed down considerably over the last few years. Mid-tier consumer GPU prices are probably not going to go up much, given that there is now more competition in that area from AMD. I do think upper-tier gaming GPUs will increase though, since they also target non gamer markets (local LLM users, mostly.) Also neural-rendering is the next big thing. We'll see if PS6/AMD can keep up with that. If they can, then consumer GPUs probably won't increase too much in price. If they can't, then the gap that you're talking about between mid-range Ampere vs. PS5/mid-range RDNA2 probably will repeat itself. |
PAOerfulone said:
"Even a lower-mid tier PC is already at the rumored spec range of the PS6 for around $1,000-1,500."
I don't necessarily disagree with most of your points. The PS6 is going to be about as capable as a 6060ti or a 6070, provided they don't get revolutionary features abscent in PS6's GPU.
