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sc94597 said:
Leynos said:

We are in late stage capitalism. If you ever read up on supposed experts, last 20 years or so said society would collapse by 2040. Last few years have accelerated that. This is not the same as oh now we have a printing press to make a task easier and better in the 1700s or Trains to get us to another place faster or deliver goods faster. Those w6ere useful advancements. Gen AI farms do nothing good or have any real use and seeing corps replacing people with AI at a Taco Bell Drive Through that orders 18,000 sodas is not the same at all.

@ Bolded It's the same in kind (fundamentally different society with different modes and relations of production) but different in pace and intensity. 

The transition to capitalism was pretty disruptive. For nearly ten thousand years agricultural work was the primary occupation for the vast majority of people. Ownership over landed property was the source of wealth. The transition to wealth accumulation via arbitrage and more abstracted property ownership, and wage labor rather than slave or drudge labor was pretty significant. 

It just happened over half a millenia, whereas this is happening over a century at the longest (with the start date in the 80's probably.) 

The italized is point blank wrong. Alpha Proteo is good, it has revolutionized medical research. The automation of formalization of mathematics and quantitative science is good and will bring many advancements in sciences, despite science being the least funded its been in a century. I can see if your argument is that AI is on net bad, but to say there are no good applications is based in ignorance. 

Gen AI farms are not that. They said Gen AI farms do nothing good. The quantitative science analyzung big data bots are not gen AI. Its just deep learning technology that has been a thing for a while and they don't need huge data farms. 

This is the issue with smooshing a lot of tech together. Its for some tech to provide cover for the bad tech like gen AI. 

Deep learning tech in research and medicine did not cause worldwide disruptions mor are what is advertised. What is advertised is based on shit like Grok, Chat gpt, sora, etc



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