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SvennoJ said:
Zkuq said:

Developing nukes can't possibly take 15 years, even with some setbacks. Iran must have consciously chosen to not take the final steps. If Iran finally decided to actually pursue nukes, it was because of the strikes last summer, and guess who did that? If there was any urgent threat, it was because of Trump. If this was more of a future thing, e.g. for the time after Khamenei's death, that's another thing, but it was also not urgent.

I say this is Trump wanting to leave a mark, and triggering a regime change in Iran would definitely be one way to leave a mark. Trump is old enough to probably care about his legacy a lot, and his legacy until the start of his second term probably wasn't particularly notable. Before his second term, he would probably have been remembered as the president that stirred up the pot and not much more.

It reportedly was Khamenei that forbid the pursuit of nuclear weapons.

Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei maintained a long-standing public stance against nuclear weapons, issuing a
fatwa in the early 2000s declaring their development and use "haram" (forbidden). He consistently argued that such weapons contradict Islamic principles and are unnecessary for Iran's security.

True or not, Iran has reportedly been weeks away from Nuclear weapons for decades.

The IAEA International Atomic Energy Agency found Iran to have over 60%+ enriched uranium (back in early-mid 2021) (last allowed visit by iran).
Then they detected "particles" nearby enrichment plants of over 83% in 2023.
In 2025 they suddenly had stockpiled more than 400 Kg of enriched uranium (over 60%).
latest intelligence is they have over 450 kg now.

At ~90% enrichment you can make a modern day nuke.
(you can make one with lower %, but its effect won't be as drastic, and will need more material (kg))

Also you need around 25kg to make a functional nuke.
~450 kg is enough to make ~18 war heads (if enriched to 90%).
if they settle for making a dirty / poorly made nuke, at like 60-70%, they would need like ~40kg each.
Still enough to make 10 such weapons.


You only need 3-5% enrichment for a nuclear power plant to work.   < -------

If they were not trying for nukes, why did they enrich uranium that high?
Why are they not allowing scientists that do these "check-ups" access anymore?
So like all the data is now from traitors and spies, and like satellite detection ect.

Esp. after being told, not to do so. That them having nukes would not be allowed.

 
So can we stop the "they were not trying to make nukes" theories? 
or the "they have been years away from making them, forever" ?

They where obviously going ahead with it, and were getting closer as time went by.

*edit:

I just wanted to say that the US probably didn't want it to come to this.
They tried striking a deal with them, first (before this strike).

They did everything they could to slow down or disrupt their research, over the years.
Ei. fed them faulty intel, hardware, software hacks, assassinated a few of their researchers.
Iran kept at it, and were still progressing though slowly. 

Last edited by JRPGfan - 4 days ago