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JEMC said:

Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Intel Arc B390 beats AMD’s mainstream iGPUs and nears RTX 4050-level performance in some tests

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-arc-b390-beats-amds-mainstream-igpus-and-nears-rtx-4050-level-performance-in-some-tests

Wow these numbers are actually nuts. 63% faster than 890M at 25 watts is insane! Along with Intels XeSS feature set and such, Radeon really needs to respond to this or risk losing the PC handheld space.

Intel Core Ultra 300 “Panther Lake” reviews are here: CPU and iGPU gains analyzed

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-300-panther-lake-reviews-are-here-cpu-and-igpu-gains-analyzed

Intel has a monster iGPU in its hands... and then goes and does the most stupid thing they could:

Panther Lake's limited number of PCIe lanes means you probably won't see any gaming laptops arriving with the 12-core Xe3 iGPU and a discrete GPU
https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/gaming-laptops/panther-lakes-limited-number-of-pcie-lanes-means-you-probably-wont-see-any-gaming-laptops-arriving-with-the-12-core-xe3-igpu-and-a-discrete-gpu/
You've read my breakdown on the architecture behind Intel's new Panther Lake processors. You've gone through every graphics benchmark that Andy has done with the range-topping Core Ultra X9 388H. Between the two of them, you've now decided that your next gaming laptop is going to be Panther Lake-powered and sport a big GPU from Nvidia, to go with Intel's big Xe3 tile. You're possibly going to be disappointed, then, to know that you're almost certainly not going to see any such lappies coming to market.

The reason why is quite simple: it all comes down to the number of available PCIe lanes in the platform controller tile. Intel has two variants of this chiplet: one with 12 lanes (four are Gen 5, eight are Gen 4) and the other with 20 lanes (eight Gen 4, twelve Gen 5). The important thing, though, is that every Core Ultra 300-series processor that has the big 12-core Xe3 iGPU uses the 12-lane platform controller tile.

Why?!

Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

AMD to use RDNA5 for premium iGPU solutions, but RDNA3.5 to remain the core of AMD portfolio until 2029

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-to-use-rdna5-for-premium-igpu-solutions-but-rdna3-5-to-remain-the-core-of-amd-portfolio-until-2029

For iGPUs for office pcs, this is fine. But I really hope they don't plan on using RDNA 3.5 for handhelds as well for this long.

That's what they should do, which means that they'll likely do the wrong thing.

Lame but not the end of the world. The laptop gpus with dgpus will likely not be using a powerful iGPU anyway.

Random_Matt said:

Sony should of done a deal with Intel for a handheld chip, oh well.

Edit: I guess not actually, perhaps whoever finds panther lake exciting should check the prices; $2000+ yikes.

That gpu is also available on lower end laptops that aren't the core i9

Intel Core Ultra X7 358H + 32GB RAM Laptop Around ~$1300 USD

https://www.phoronix.com/news/MSI-Core-Ultra-X7-358H-1299