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Bofferbrauer2 said:

Doesn't look like AMD is going to do something like that. In fact, it seems like they're trying to keep the prices of GPUs down:

https://www.techpowerup.com/345251/amd-closely-tracking-memory-ecosystem-and-working-with-aibs-to-maintain-radeon-msrps

We will end up with a 9070XT that is about 10% slower than a 5080 but more like 40% cheaper at this rate, because I'm sure NVidia will raise the prices for the 5080 while they're at it with the cancellation of the 5070Ti.

Edit: Having chosen GDDR6 instead of GDDR7 might be playing in their favor too. GDDR6 is based on DDR4, which has less demand than DDR5, so availability is probably somewhat higher for those chips.

The 5090 starts at $4,400 USD.
The 5080 starts at $1500 USD.
The 9070XT can be had for as low as $750 USD.

And whilst you are correct that GDDR6/DDR4 has lower demand than DDR5... The factories that make GDDR6 and DDR4 can also make HBM memory, which is what those factories are doing in order to sell to datacenters/A.I... So supply for GDDR6 is also borked.

Conina said:

For 16 GB graphic cards, AMD will probably also prioritize 9070 XT GPUs and will cut production for 9070 (non-XT).

Partly defective Navi 48 chips they can't use for 9070 XT, they can sell as 9070 GRE with 12 GB instead of 9070 non-XT with 16 GB.

For 9060 XT GPUs they will prioritize the 8 GB models and cut the production of 16 GB models, perhaps ditch 9060 non-XT 8 GB, too.

So I expect

  • 9060 XT 8 GB
  • 9070 GRE 12 GB
  • 9070 XT 16 GB

Slimming down product lines to prioritize higher volume/higher profit margin parts is likely the only option for AMD.
A 12GB GRE model would actually be brilliant in order to re-use faulty 9070XT dies, but cut down on memory costs. Ram makes up about 80% of GPU bill of materials currently.

Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

https://wccftech.com/three-more-ryzen-9800x3d-deaths-reported-on-asus-motherboards-in-a-single-day/

First Asrock, now Asus? Why does this shit keep happening?

CPU's use a lot of power and put out a lot of heat these days... It's not like the old Socket Super 7 days where you can put a heatsink without any thermal paste on a naked CPU die and call it a day and still get temps of around 60-70c.
Plus CPU's these days are typically run at their limits in terms of voltage/frequency to get every single drop of performance out of the hardware and that leaves very little room for error when it comes to voltage/frequency scaling... So any bullshit in the BIOS can have catastrophic consequences on parts that are already near their limits. (I.E. PBO)

Combine that with a cheapening of motherboard components like VRM/Mosfets and so forth, with new power standards/cables... And that compounds the issues.




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