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| Cobretti2 said: The attack that happened in Australia has had so much conflicting information, people have no clue what to believe anymore. |
The Guardian cleared some of it up
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/dec/15/pakistani-man-living-in-australia-describes-nightmare-of-being-labelled-as-bondi-attacker
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Akram was not alone in being caught up in false and malicious reports that spread across social media after the shooting. One X post with more than 8m views incorrectly claimed the shooter was an IDF soldier, while another claimed the shooter was a Lebanese man of Palestinian descent.
Meanwhile, the man who tackled one of the shooters and took his gun from him has been confirmed as 43-year-old father-of-two, Ahmed al-Ahmed. But on X users falsely claimed the hero was actually a 47-year-old IT worker, with a British name.
The posts linked to a website called “thedailyaus.world”, which was registered on Sunday in Iceland to a registration company, according to WHOIS records, so it is unclear who operates the site.
This misinformation was repeated by X’s AI chatbot, Grok, which responded to users falsely claiming the wrong man “heroically tackled and disarmed a gunman during a terrorist attack at Bondi Beach, getting shot twice but preventing more deaths”.
Timothy Graham, an associate professor at Queensland University of Technology, said the fact the Grok post had not had a community note applied to it in the 10 hours after it was posted showed how X’s fact-checking system failed on deeply-divided content during such an event.
On some posts identifying al-Ahmed, users submitted community notes claiming another man was the perpetrator and linking to the site in Iceland, but those notes were not published on any posts seen by Guardian Australia.
Some accounts did correctly name al-Ahmed, but they incorrectly claimed he was a Maronite Christian, when he is Syrian Muslim.
There were also false claims that Muslims had set off fireworks in Bankstown in western Sydney in celebration of the attack. The fireworks were in nearby Padstow and were part of a Christmas carols event.
Contributing to the pile-on, one user labelled the Bonnyrigg home address of the alleged shooter as a mosque on Google Maps. The label has since been removed.
This shit is only going to get worse with AI bots spreading disinformation. That Grok can so easily be misled should be a warning for all. And this site in Iceland put up yesterday to spread disinformation is extremely suspicious, adding to the false flag claims.
Here's some (maybe fact checked) news
What we know so far about the Bondi Beach attack on a Hanukkah event
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/bondi-beach-attack-9.7015801
- 15 killed, at least 38 others treated in hospitals after 2 shooters fire on Hanukkah celebration at Australia's most popular beach.
- 1 suspect dead, another in a coma. Were father and son, investigators say.
- Attack was act of terrorism, says Australian government.
- Shooter amassed 6 guns legally, PM says.
Suspects attacked Jewish beachside gathering
Little is known about the suspects in the attack on Sydney’s famous Bondi Beach, but there was widespread shock when officials said that the two men pictured firing weapons in social media videos were related.
The 50-year-old father, who was killed, arrived in Australia in 1998 on a student visa, authorities said, and was an Australian resident when he died. Officials wouldn’t confirm what country he had migrated from.
His 24-year-old Australian-born son, who was shot and wounded, is being treated at a hospital.
The target was a Hanukkah celebration where hundreds had gathered to celebrate the first day of the eight-day Jewish holiday. Prime Minister Anthony Albanese called it an act of antisemitic terrorism.
Albanese said that Australia’s main domestic spy agency, the Australian Security Intelligence Agency, had investigated the son for six months in 2019. The Australian TV network ABC reported that the agency had examined the son’s ties to a Sydney-based Islamic State group cell. Albanese did not describe the associates, but said the spy agency was interested in them rather than the son.
Police said the father held a firearms licence and that he was a member of a gun club, which suggests he was a target shooter.
Victims include rabbis, 10-year-old girl
Among the 15 victims were a rabbi who was a father of five, a Holocaust survivor and a 10-year-old girl, according to interviews, officials and local media reports.
The identities of the victims haven't been formally revealed by authorities but some information has begun to emerge. Here's some of what we know so far about the victims:
- Eli Schlanger, 41, was assistant rabbi at Chabad Bondi, which put on the event.
- Peter Meagher, a retired policeman and longtime rugby volunteer, was struck down while working as a freelance photographer at the event.
- French national Dan Elkayam, 27, played soccer with Rockdale Ilinden Football Club.
- Matilda, 10, a primary school student described as a “bright, joyful, and spirited child."
- Reuven Morrison, described as "a member of the Chabad community."
- Holocaust survivor Alex Kleytman, 87, who reportedly died shielding his wife.
- Rabbi Yaakov Levitan served as secretary of the Sydney Jewish religious organization Beth Din.
- Tibor Weitzen, 78, who migrated to Australia from Israel in 1988.
- Marika Pogany, 82, "a dedicated volunteer."
Praise for a man who tried to help
One dramatic clip broadcast on Australian television showed a man appearing to tackle and disarm one of the gunmen, before pointing the man’s weapon at him, then setting the gun on the ground.
The man was identified by Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke as Ahmed al-Ahmed. The 43-year-old Syrian-Muslim fruit shop owner and father of two was shot by the other gunman and is recovering in hospital.
