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The_Yoda on 02 December 2025
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shavenferret said:
Zkuq said:

I agree with you about the message, it's the delivery that's the issue. Your delivery method seems to be conflict, and I reckon you're not ready or capable of going far enough to achieve anything using conflict. Instead, you're just creating polarization. Just to be clear, I'm not advocating for conflict, because I don't think it's nice for anyone involved, which might as well be everyone.

I can see where you're coming from. I just don't think your online delivery seems like a fruitful approach to achieve what you want. You might be able to rouse up some people in your support if you're lucky, but you're probably not going to change anyone's mind.

It sounds conflicting b ecause people are just coming up to me and arguing.  Y'all can't let me have my thread and i have to defend myself.  How about all of the people that don't like it go find a better thread?  The arguments about the legitimacy of the thread is where the problem is.  

Please go find a better thread and leave this one.  There were no problems until you came here.    

Just my 2 cents - I have not really interpreted anyone's responses as "this thread should not exist" instead what I see are people trying to let you know that how you describe that resisting ("If more people like me would resist") is likely to result in conflict rather than meaningful discourse.  Post some news and examples instead of defending an attack on the thread that does not seem to exist.  I'd bet that people may pick apart those posted examples rather than tell you the thread itself is just wrong.  Again this is just my interpretation of the responses so far, I could be wrong. 

Many on this site like to hate on religion, all religion, and you should find some support because of that.

As others have pointed out Mr. Handy was aligned with you for the most part with the exception of how they think change is best brought about.  Instead of just arguing against their methodology to elicit change you also grouped them in with those that did not do enough to stop the rise of the Nazi party and all that followed.  By including them in that group you are alienating them with phrases like "people like you".  Go after the methodology not the man if you want to win allies.