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| Leynos said: War Games is traditionally a blood bath in a roofed cage. Literally what it is supposed to be not a sanitized NASCAR ring. Just like Japanese exploding death match actually explodes not puffs of white smoke. If you're going to do a certain match type that is historically violent then do it. You don't want a PG-13 Robocop or a PG-13 Friday the 13th. T for Teen God of War or Doom. If you're going to do it. Do it right. Also it's one thing to not help your friend as they are pinned vs a gang holds a women down and forces her to give up watching her friend being beaten and tortured. One is story telling and the other is lazy. I don't care what the 3 letters say for a company when it comes to historical match types. Just do it right. |
Here is a 1989 wargames match.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=199XbH91NYw
I see minimal use of weapons and it certainly does not come close to a blood bath. I think the war games match last night, the men's, featured more blood than this one.
Here is 1987, I believe the first.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMi1dm9SiNY
I am not sure there is any use of weapons. Some people get a little blood, mainly from the use of the cage, but certainly not a blood bath.
Here is 1991
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAZ5pHDqk4s
Again no weapons. Not a bloodbath. Nobody is bleeding except Ric Flair because of course he is.
Here is 1992.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUBpRjHZ7ew
A bit bloodier, still far from a blood bath. Again, no use of weapons I can see besides what is naturally in the ring. I.e. the cage, the ring ropes.
Here is 1994.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTCaVx3IHgw
I actually don't see a drop of blood. Maybe I missed it, but seems like a pretty dry war games.
Will we find our bloodbath in 96?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byNc1JJf-sY
No we won't. Still looks dry as a bone to me.
If there is a war games match that can fairly be called a blood match I cant find it. Feel free to share. Either way it is clear that blood has never been a mandatory component and certainly people were not trying to maim one another.
Here are the highlights of the blood and guts match you mentioned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EKGd-zOpts
We have Skye Blue alone bleeding more than I think everyone in all of those matches I showed above combined. People wrestling outside the ring for some reason (didn't you say wargames had to be in a cage?), someone like... leaning back gingerly onto a bed of nails, broken glass, and an attempted table spot. Oh, and there was a puppet. If you are into that stuff, fine, but classic war games this ain't. I would argue that WWE's version is actually a lot closer as in the old school matches. 90% of those were just normal wrestling with occassionally bashing someone into the cage, as opposed to a series of deathmatch spots. And the amount of blood in the wargames matches, even the women's, were a lot closer to the wargames of old. A couple of people may have gotten color in each match, but it wasn't like everyone was just gushing out buckets of blood. Quite a few of the matches featured no blood at all.
If you like the AEW version better, I'm not going to argue especially since i only saw the highlights as defined by aew. Frankly, I don't personally care how similar either is to the original concept. Things evolve over time. But if your argument is that the blood and guts was better because it was somehow an accurate portrayal of what war games has historically been, lol no fucking way. War games was never a garbage wrestling match.
Now if you would have said something along the lines of "pathetic if you want to see a real war games match watch the 1989 war games match to see what it should be like" maybe I'd believe you actually were watching both with an open mind and just really care about the integrity of war games or something. But the fact is that neither of these are even close to what Wargames originally was. Yet WWE is pathetic for breaking the norms and AEW is the bestest thing ever that everyone needs to watch. Totally inconsistent. So, it's clearly not about historical accuracy and clearly all about the letters. ^_^
P.S.
As for the endings, I'm not sure what you're on about. Nobody was helping Becky because Iyo Sky had taken them all out with the trashcan jump spot. Becky backed away because she's kind of a bitch and was willing to abandon her team mates. So, nobody was left to help her. Of course, one wonders why the rest of them were standing there like morons just waiting for someone to dive on them, but that's modern wrestling for you. JR had called that out in AEW.
So, they're not helping their friend because, a) they are very clearly not her friends and b) more importantly cause they were all knocked out. Becky claiming she was trying to get their attention is an obvious lie which fits in her story with AJ and Karr. Not anything mindblowing but it was fine.
As for the ending of the blood and guts match, I don't know the background story, but I'm guessing it was fine in context. It's an ending I've seen at least a few times in wrestling, typically as a way to end an I Quit match where the heel is supposed to go over. Bret Hart vs Bob Backlund was along those lines, I know Edge did it to save Beth Phoenix. Maybe Bayley for Sasha once? It's fine. Pretty much every finish has been done before, but lets not act like they are reinventing the wheel here.
Especially when the finish was apparently copied and pasted from the match last year with the men where apparently Jack Perry would rather be lit on fire than give up so one of the Bucks had to surrender to save him. XD Classic Wargames right there! I remember when Dusty threatened to immolate Larry Zybyzko. XD Holy shit is this silly.
If the heels are going to win, and you don't want any babyface to be pinned, then you have to think of something. But, if the babyfaces are going to win, it's perfectly fine to just have them hit their finisher(s) and call it a day. I would assume that many AEW matches end in that fashion. Complaining that the faces winning with their finishers is bonkers. Im sure we could find lots of AEW matches that end just like that.
Again consistency is how we tell the difference between legitimate critique and tribal ravings.
Last edited by JWeinCom - on 04 December 2025
