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TheRealSamusAran said:

Not MY soya beans ;)

You are right, though, land is destroyed with monoculture soybean plantations, to feed livestock, and after the land is destroyed they put more livestock there, and then repeat the process with another land in this destructive cycle. But hey, I'm glad that you got to learn that!

Edit: well, SvennoJ already did a much more detailed explanation of how things work, thanks for that, I personally don't have the patience for that anymore.

Haha now you're feeding into the stereotype vegan diets make miserable (impatient) people. jk.

Damn 97% of US Soybeans are for cattle... 

Fits with these stats

Globally, about 26% of the Earth's land surface is used for grazing, which is roughly the size of the entire Americas. This excludes cropland used for animal feed, which takes up an area as large as China. In total, livestock accounts for around 80% of all agricultural land use

A 2020 study found that the current pastureland alone could only support about 27% of the global beef supply, requiring supplemental feed from cropland to produce more.

Free-roam feeding all the cattle in the world would require a vast amount of land, estimated to be around 32 million square kilometers (12.3 million square miles), or an area roughly the size of the entire continents of North and South America combined. The current global cattle herd is approximately 1.5 billion head.

Then there are 26.5 billion chickens, about 1 billion pigs, 1.2 billion sheep, 1.2 to 2.2 trillion fish harvested yearly, about 109 billion farmed yearly, all to feed and sustain 8.1 billion people.


And if you swap Beef for Nut protein (100g) for 1 meal, you've saved the production equivalent of 140 physical games! (and about 0.6% of a full grown cow spared, the protein from one adult cow can feed you for 168 days, eat beef every day takes over 2 cows a year, eat chicken every day you kill 222 chickens a year, more if you only eat chicken breasts)


Yeah people don't like vegans because they are right :/ Uncomfortable truths.

(Of course there are still challenges with B12 and Omega-3s in a vegan diet, but red meat diet carries its own risks which are arguably much worse. Plus B12 and Omega-3 are easily produced with plant based fermentation and algea, same way cows and fish make it)

Anyway you likely know all this, not directed at you, just some more food for thought for this thread :)

And yeah I'm a hypocrite as well as I finish my sirloin steak dinner in a heated home while browsing the internet with the TV on in the background streaming :/