Best 4th console

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TheRealSamusAran said:

Jumpin said:

To be fair, Gamecube is the least Nintendo-like console ever made, and it wasn't a happy era for Nintendo's development staff who felt Nintendo was losing its creative edge and failing to stand out (Read about that here: https://nintendoeverything.com/gamecube-era-made-miyamoto-very-sad/). It was a PS2 clone-box with its library being made up of primarily PS2 game ports with no extra features or perks (sometimes fewer features, like with SSX Tricky). So, people voting for that are really voting for PS2-clone with a reduced library and a Nintendo sticker.

Ah yes, hold on, let me fire Smash Melee for a few matches on my PS2 before switching to Zelda Twilight Princess.

Eh. Nintendo def was in a panic that gen. They put Mario in an NBA game to look cooler. NOA wanted to change the logo to a graffiti logo but Reggie put a stop to it. The NOA ads were weirdly edgy. They signed on RE as exclusives, then hoped they would have the next big exclusive M-rated FPS in Geist. They had a tribal tattoo Mario on an ad for Tribal tatt GBA SP. Nintendo was definitely chasing the edgier PS2/Xbox audience. I believe when that generation began, Miyamoto and co said Mario would be less cute. While Nintendo did not go full Sonic Adventure edgy Sonic redesign route. They did make him less pudgy and lankier in design. You mention Melee, and they did give him a slightly more realistic design in that game. Esp the overalls.

Nintendo was kinda stuck. Wind Waker is amazing, but Twilight Princess was Nintendo answering the call after lackluster WW sales to make an edgier Zelda. I believe some have discovered that TP is the Zelda game Nintendo didn't want to make but felt obligated. I think Aounuma took over for Zelda with WW and always wanted a lighter art stylele. TP being a one-off off then SS and BOTW kinda prove the theory.  Nintendo esp in that era, being edgier is the Hello, fellow kids meme.