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Kyuu on 29 September 2025
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Cerebralbore101 said:
Kyuu said:

Except we do have enough data for unit sales and development costs. A slight increase in revenue easily deletes the rising development costs, I wrote a couple of detailed breakdowns on how dev cost vs revenue works and you seemed to agree.

A PS5 that sells a 100 million units at $500 is decidedly more popular than a PS5 that sells the same at $400. Because the extra $100 is prohibitive to a large segment of buyers. Similarly, Nintendo's games holding their prices is 100% an indicator of popularity, and is in no way "inflating revenue". Expensive consoles do not guarantee higher overall hardware revenues unless the consumer sees the value and decides to buy. PS5 selling so well at such high prices is objectively an indicator of popularity. Profitability is another story because it takes into account a crap ton of other factors, but Sony is beating their profit records as well and is stating to see huge year over year increases now that acquisitions (and Concord!) are behind them. Sony already made more profit this generation than what they made in the four previous generations combined. So the higher revenues are definitely netting them more money.

Only a compete fool would look at hardware sales alone without considering other factors. I loved my PS2, but the Playstation business today is much bigger and more successful (they're products of different eras. PS2 is indeed more impressive with its era in mind). And expensive products don't necessarily lead to higher revenues.

Are you factoring in inflation with your profits claim? 

Something selling equally well at $100 more doesn't mean it's more popular. It just means that price isn't a prohibiting factor at $100 more for the majority of consumers. 

PS5 would have sold a lot more if it was a $100 cheaper on average, let's stop pretending otherwise. Selling that well at its current pricing is an impressive popularity feat, especially for a console with a very few true exclusives.

The higher profits aren't "my claim" but a fact revealed by Sony. And no, none of these companies' reports take inflation into account. But someone on Reddit adjusted the numbers for inflation, and it still had the PS5 generation ahead. This is partly due to the nightmare called PS3.

If we delete PS3 from the equation and adjust for inflation, current Playstation gen would need less than a couple more years to beat previous generations combined. Playstation is bigger than ever at the moment, but I'm not a fan of Sony's decisions. I think from 2027 onwards, the brand will start trending downward and may never reach its previous peak (2026) in most relevant metrics.