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TheMisterManGuy said:
zorg1000 said:

You’re really glazing over the things Trump/Kirk stand for  when you label it as simply “having different opinionsâ€Â.

I’m not saying they deserved to be shot but you can’t be on a side that actively promotes division, strips people of their rights, & tries to overthrow democracy then get upset when that results in political violence.

There we go again. "Muh Democracy" and "Muh Trans rights!" I can tell you right now that most of you who spout this nonsense don't gaf about anyone's rights. Minorities, LGBT, Palestine, etc. are all used as just used as props for Democrats to gain and Lord their power over everyone. These are the same people who buried the Iyrana Zarutaka murder, because the murderer was a black guy. Black people only matter to them, when they can paint them as victims to hate on white people.

If anybody promoted division, it's leftists. At least Kirk was willing to listen to the other side's arguments, not shout them down and dox them on social media. 

So according to how you framed it here, there is the dichotomy between people who give lip-service to individual rights of marginalized people and don't listen to opposing views that suggest they shouldn't have them vs. a person who doesn't think large groups of Americans who fall in these groups should have rights ("We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s.", "Homosexuality is akin to alcoholism or drug use", etc) but he was willing to listen to people who think the individual rights should exist, which is the prevailing view that the overwhelming majority of Americans have. 

And you're wondering why people of marginalized groups vote for Democrats? 

Hell, I am not a very strong Democrat. I pretty much hate the party. But if it is a choice between people who want to hurt me (I am non-heterosexual, non-white, and have a disability) and those who pay me lip-service and do nothing, I am obviously going to side with the latter. I really don't care if the first group will listen to me justify my existence as a fully equal member of society. I shouldn't have to be arguing for it in the first place. 

Last edited by sc94597 - on 11 September 2025