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Ryuu96 on 21 August 2025
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curl-6 said:
Chrkeller said:

Well there are two parts.  One, we need to see how much MFG comes to the US.  I do think many here are being a bit blind to the committed trillion dollar investments.  I get the idea that companies can back away from their commitment, but that is a bit naive.  Companies can't falsely make massive public announcements, that is a major security and exchange commission violations.

The second piece is a bigger question.  Paying more to have more jobs, is it worth it?

But hate blinds.  And to be fair the hate is more than justified.  

And if anyone here is being honest....  there is a bit of an absurd dismissive attitude to well over $1,000,000,000,000 in investments.  

And people are wrong about vague promises that companies can just back off whenever.  Security and exchange commission says hello.

Apple is a publicly traded company.  They can't flatly lie about a $500,000,000,000 investments.  Sure they can change plans, but isn't as simple as being are making it out to be.  

Look at it from the companies POV; it would cost them a fortune (and years) to set up new operations in the US, and even once they came online, they'd be far more expensive to operate due to first world wages.

In three and a half years time, the current US government's term ends; the new admin may dispense with tariffs altogether, in which case the companies have wasted a fortune for nothing. Heck, Trump is already flip-flopping on a day to day basis, to say nothing of years down the track.

It just isn't worth their while, not when they can just raise their prices and carry on business as usual.

Better wages and better workers rights, better benefits packages, etc. Even in America itself, corporations like Microsoft massively rely on contractors to cut costs because contractors aren't entitled to the full set of benefits that a full-time employee is, it's a shitty reason but that's how these companies operate, always looking for the cheapest possible solution.

The cheapest solution in both short term and long term isn't to bring manufacturing back to America, so they won't do it.

Tomorrow Trump could lift tariffs on China if only because they released a statement saying how he is the best President to ever exist, Lmao. It's futile to base your business decisions on whatever Trump is doing. Just give him a vague PR win to keep the toddler happy and let him scream at someone else. Tariffs could lift tomorrow, they could lift next week, there's no sense in trying to decipher the madness.