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numberwang said:

Starmer (jewish), Macron (Rothschild Banker) and Carney are Zionists. I believe their recognition of a Palestinian state is a legal way to have a "refugee agreement" with that state of Palestine to move the Arabs into UK, France and Canada aka the Trump/Kushner plan to expand Israel into Gaza and the West bank. This is not a humanitarian plot to serve Palestinians.

I don't think they want to host Palestinians at all, but yeah maybe to move them to Arab states.

For example the extended Visa program Canada introduced for Palestinians is nothing but a mess of red tape
https://www.ctvnews.ca/vancouver/article/palestinian-canadians-say-temporary-visa-program-is-failing-people-trapped-in-gaza/

It's another distraction from actually doing something meaningful to stop the genocide, next to trying to distance themselves from that genocide by repeating the mantra "we were always for a 2-state solution" and thirdly using their recognition as a way to influence the 2-state solution for Israel's benefit if it comes that far. 

Starmer made recognition conditional, Macron has lots of demands and Carney's statement:

https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/statements/2025/07/30/statement-prime-minister-carney-canadas-recognition-palestinian-state

This intention is predicated on the Palestinian Authority’s commitment to much-needed reforms, including the commitments by Palestinian Authority President Abbas to fundamentally reform its governance, to hold general elections in 2026 in which Hamas can play no part, and to demilitarize the Palestinian state. Canada will increase its efforts in supporting strong, democratic governance in Palestine and the contributions of its people to a more peaceful and hopeful future.

We reiterate that Hamas must immediately release all hostages taken in the horrific terrorist attack of October 7; that Hamas must disarm; and that Hamas must play no role in the future governance of Palestine. Canada will always steadfastly support Israel’s existence as an independent state in the Middle East living in peace and security. Any path to lasting peace for Israel also requires a viable and stable Palestinian state, and one that recognizes Israel’s inalienable right to security and peace.

They say they want a democratic state for Palestine but Palestinians can have no input... The PA is deeply unpopular and seen as a puppet government for Israel's occupation of the West bank.

Poll in May, only 7% would vote for the PA, Hamas support down to 22%, if Marwan Barghouti (Palestinian Nelson Mandela) would be freed and allowed to set up up a political party. That's who the Palestinians want to unify the West Bank and Gaza into one Palestinian state.


Netanyahu knows this of course and now his stooges are pledging to recognize a Palestinian state so they can push for the PA to extend its governance to Gaza. Opposed to the plan in Februari https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/16/egypt-gaza-reconstruction-plan-hamas

Hamas would be excluded there as well and Hamas has already said they don't want to rule Gaza anymore and step down. Of course they're refusing to lay down their weapons until security is established, it's the only deterrence they have from getting slaughtered further. The IRA kept their arms until 2005, 7 years after the Good Friday agreement. 

Calling for disarmament as a prerequisite is a giant red flag, the world doesn't work that way. Plus it's logistically impossible with all the different splinter factions and now also armed gangs (armed by Israel) roaming around in Gaza further destabilizing the strip. It's just talking points from the occupation / invader. Putin is making the same demands (disarmament) on Ukraine for 'peace'.

It very much smells like an attempt to crash the 2-state solution conference and indeed nothing to do with addressing the humanitarian crisis.