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pokoko said:

After skimming through this thread, I really can't tell that much difference between atheists and theists. Both are based on faith. Both have plenty of arrogant assholes who seem to feel the need to preach their beliefs at others. Horseshoe theory, I guess.

I don't want to be lumped in with either one. Please don't try to include agnostic with atheist.


That is blatantly false.
Atheism is NOT based on "faith". - Faith by it's definition is blind belief without evidence.

Atheism is literally the REJECTION of "faith" because the burden of evidence has not been met.

That's all there is to it. 

They are literal polar opposites, if you are unable to discern the differences between Theism and Atheism, then you likely haven't studied the fundamental differences between the two.

Agnostic is different from Atheism, but you can also be an Agnostic Atheist, they are not mutually exclusive.


Cyran said:

As for my background I grew up in a Reform Jewish household so not super religious but definitely my parents believed in god but took the view more that the Old Testament was given by God to teach lessons rather than be taken completely literal so I was encourage to learn as much about science as possible and while I was force to go to Hebrew school and Temple I was never punish for expressing my personal disbelief (by my parents at hebrew school they was less happy about some of my questions).

Religion never made sense to me and I also grew up a huge fantasy fan from RA Salvatore to JR Tolkien etc and to me when I read these religion story they was no difference then the fantasy stories that I knew was made up.  I did find the stories interesting and read stories from many mythology and religions and I came to the same conclusion that it was likely written by men no different then the fantasy books I read.

Around the age 14 I read the Selfish Gene by Stephen Dawkins which is probably when I started to have a fully understanding that I was am Athiest.  From there I started reading many books from other scientists.  Physics interest me the most so people like Michio Kaku, Stephen Hawkins, Brian Greene etc.

I find people tend to leverage the Old Testament to attack various demographics when it suits. I.E. Homosexuality in Leviticus... But will reject the Old Testament when it's inconvenient. I.E. Stoning unruly children to death in Deuteronomy.
They are hypocrites.
And then you get the truly bible-bashing nut jobs who believe in the Old Testament in a literal fashion: See 7th day Adventists.

Honestly, I just cannot take the "God exists, God is loving" claim seriously when I have had to carry a dead child to their parents.

No loving God would allow a child to suffer and die a horrific and gruesome death... And if you disagree with that, then you support narcissism.

Last edited by Pemalite - on 19 July 2025

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