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curl-6 said:
zorg1000 said:

What part of 2025 is drastically different than what would have been expected in 2015?

Sony & Microsoft released pretty straight forward successors to PS4 & XBO. Online shooters, sports and open-world games are still the big hitters on those platforms. PS4 was already outselling XBO by a large margin by 2015 and that trend has continued.

I’ve never been much of a mobile or PC gamer but from what I’ve seen, those ecosystems are still very much the same as they were 10 years ago. Mobile is still predominantly small, casual games that can be played in quick bursts and PC is still dominated by Steam.

Nintendo was in a down period in 2015 and releasing a hybrid may be a surprise to many but Iwata was discussing plans to unify their handheld & console divisions as far back as 2014/2015. Vita was already dead/dying and abandoned by Sony so them opting out of the handheld market shouldn’t be a surprise.

Things like Steam Deck & Rog Ally might be a surprise but there has always been alternatives to Nintendo handhelds like Atari Lynx, Game Gear, TurboExpress, Nomad, Neo Geo Pocket, WonderSwan, N-Gage, PSP, Zodiac, Gizmondo, Vita, GPD Win, Shield Portable, etc.

2015 saw the introduction of Steam Machines which never caught on and was around the time VR headsets starting getting released but those have also remained a niche market.

Idk, I just don’t see 2025 as being massively different than 2015. To me, it seems pretty much the same and should only be surprising if you thought it would have massive changes like Nintendo going 3rd party or mobile gaming taking over or VR being mainstream.

I mean, I didn't see many people in 2015 predict that the successor to the Wii U would outsell the PS4 and DS, or that Forza and Gears of War would come to Playstation, or the advent of AI, or that Sony's first party blockbusters would come to PC.

Calling Switch the successor to Wii U while leaving out their handheld line is pretty disingenuous. Yeah, 150+ million would have seemed like a long shot but like I said, Nintendo was already talking about unifying their handheld & consoles into a unified ecosystem as far back as 2014 so the successor to 3DS+Wii U (~90 million) being a big hit shouldn’t have been a surprise.

Yeah, Sony & Microsoft have started to release games on other platforms which is surprising but I don’t think those are massive shifts that make 2025 unrecognizable to someone in 2015. Console/mobile/PC hardware & software is a pretty straightforward evolution of the last decade.

I’m not really sure what to say about AI, has it done something that drastically changed gaming?



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