Mnementh said:
Cyran said:
France has Two-Round voting so people feel more free to vote for whoever they want on first round since on the second round they get a second vote for the 2 candidates that got the most votes. I think USA would see a lot more people voting third party if we had two-round voting. Japan and UK both parliamentary system where you don't vote for the prime minister but vote for your local MP. When one party does not get the majority of seats then the party with the most seats have to negotiate with other parties to form a minority government which means even a party that only get a few seats can still hold influence over the prime minister in some situation unlike USA where we vote for our president directly (well technically electoral college but the electoral college is winner take all, a thrid party cant give there electoral votes to anouther party after the fact like in a parlimentary system). All your examples either give more influence to parties in the minority then the USA (parlimentary system) or in the case of france give citizen a second vote which we don't get in the USA. The USA system is as RolStoppable indicated uniquely setup to encourage people to vote for one of the two party in order to maximize chance of the person you vote for having a chance to win to the point that I had press to think of another country that have a single round vote directly for president that have many parties as valid option. |
Eh, France's two round system may have a small effect, but the much bigger effect is the believe in the lie, that they cannot escape the two-party system. Beliefs are very strong influencers of our actions. So strengthening this belief is actively harming the people in the US. |
I think it might have a bigger affects than you would imagine. Not over night but over time. For example in 2024 under the french system I would of consider third party on round 1 if I knew I would of had a round 2 too vote against Trump. Since that was not the case I never even consider voting for anyone other then Harris. Over time as people see third party get more votes more and more people would become comfortable voting for them.
You can call it a lie but when it been around 175 years since last time someone who was not a Democrat or Republican won until there more states that stop using winner take it all it going to be tough to convince people that someone that not Democratic or Republican have a serious shot of winning and therefore people going to choose the candidate that they believe closer to what they want.
