Russia and Ukraine flashpoint

[shavenferret]

SecondWar said:

shavenferret said:

That scenario would do a lot of things regarding american foreign policy goals.... We could see things like:

-russia losing khaliningrad

-russia losing siberia

-russian people angry about the vast amounts of wealth wasted on war, and moving towards liberalism of the nation

And perhaps other nations that russia has gobbled up (georgia if i'm not mistaken) becoming free and independent again

I can’t see either of those first two words things happening, regardless of the outcome of the war.

That's certainly fine. Russia spends a lot to keep some of its less loyal territories in check. They are probably paying the ailing leader in Chechnya out the ass so he will continue to be a puppet. They spend a lot on kaliningrad as well. And if Russia weakens enough due to its economy, then the time may be right for freedom to emerge like a lotus from mud.