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Ryuu96 on 02 June 2025
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Bofferbrauer2 said:
Ryuu96 said:

🇹🇷 In Istanbul, talks have begun between Ukrainian and Russian delegations, mediated by Turkey.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 2 June 2025 at 12:48

Interesting they refused to let America in the "negotiations" from last month but Türkiye is mediating this one, Lol. Be interesting to see if Russia pulls their "We're going to kill you all, and all your families, if you don't surrender all your land to us!" with Türkiye in the room. Erdogan is an asshole but with the whole proxy-war, regional rivalries than Türkiye has with Russia, I don't think Erdogan will let the Russian side run wild.

Embarrassing for America that Russia told them to piss off but bends to Türkiye.

Also, Erdogan is very unlikely to pressure Ukraine into surrendering Crimea.

Doubly so as Erdogan has supported Ukraine with some equipment, has invested into Ukraine quite a bit (there were plans in early February 2022 for co-financing the development and production of new Antonov planes) before the war, and has opposed Russia's influence in the Middle East and Africa, so he's certainly not going to support Russia's shenanigans all that much.

He never recognised Crimea as Russian either and has always supported Ukraine's claim to it, a lot of Crimean Tartars are in Türkiye IIRC and the Black Sea is now the Türkiye Sea which Erdogan doesn't want to change, he will support Ukraine's claim to Crimea if only because it weakens Russia's force projection in the Black Sea. Erdogan has probably been creaming himself at Ukraine effectively wiping out Russia's Black Sea naval strength.

And yeah, Türkiye and Russia are geological rivals even if Erdogan and Putin shake hands occasionally and pretend to be best buddies, Erdogan does what is best for Erdogan and that's keeping Russia at bay and expanding Türkiye's influence and power, Türkiye literally just helped spank Assad out of Syria too. I don't trust Erdogan, I hate the dude, but eh, I think he will be a useful asshole in these meetings.

Only good thing he has done is fucking over Russia.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 02 June 2025