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DekutheEvilClown said:
JackHandy said:

Yeah but, they're only Bungie in name. The people who made the OG Halo trilogy are gone. So I really don't get this pedigree thing. There is no pedigree. They've left the building.

Destiny 2 has elite tier gunplay and movement, the gameplay is generally exceptional. It’s the issues outside of the gameplay that are the problem. Systems encouraging too much grind, key storylines told through seasons, overly monetised. 

The Final Shape is a 91 on OpenCritic and the Witch Queen was an 89. Lightfall was terrible filler though. That’s 2 out of the last 3 expansions getting very high ratings despite how many poor decisions are made outside of core gameplay and story issues. That speaks a lot about the quality of the core gameplay. I’d go so far as to say they probably still make the best first person shooter gameplay on anyone in the world. Probably on par with ID Software, and potentially some of the top tier live service shooters(that people won’t acknowledge I’m sure)

They do still make brilliant gameplay, I wasn't a major fan of Destiny but can't deny the gunplay is peak, I refuse to get into Destiny 2 at this stage due to all the vaulting nonsense, it wouldn't be impossible to make me interested in a Destiny 3. It's leadership decisions dragging Destiny 2 down and Bungie down from everything we've seen. Destiny 2 is still popular though like I've mentioned, consistently Top Played on Xbox and PlayStation, Top 12 by Revenue on Steam for the whole of 2024, it is still very popular, but decisions elsewhere in the studio are hurting Destiny 2.

And I don't say any of what I say because I want to see Bungie fail, it's quite the complete opposite, I still care about Bungie even if their games don't really interest me lately, I'm not interested in Destiny 2 but it clearly has an audience, it's just not for me. Marathon...I think that goes beyond not being for me, I don't think it's going to be for many people. I say what I say because I want to see Bungie succeed and continue doing great things and I think the #1 issue with Bungie right now is their leadership and that's why I want to see them gone.

It's not about hating on Bungie or anything, Bungie was my childhood favourite studio and I hate to see long-standing studios collapse when it's avoidable, I think Bungie leadership will drag them down, but based on speculation in Bungie, the leadership are all going to abandon the studio in mid-2026 which just makes things even more fucked Tbh because it's starting to look like they're just rushing Marathon out of the door to get their bonuses then they're going to jump out and leave someone else to clean up the mess.